Vanity system, will come. When available we can minmax freely. No doubt. God bless the vanity system

Get a full myth set (with stats from other gear) is possible just actually owning that item and use it for appaerance. Same for a full alllagan set.That's the endgame goal (as i said, my goal is a whm with myth set, and a bard with allagan set for example ), and the core of this thread: don't go around like a dumb just for minimax purpose (until vanity system is available) !!!
When available, get a nice looking set (and maybe the 80 one , why not. Something tells me it will be a quite cool armor ). It's an endgame goal after all. And doesn't hurt our community.

I see so many sad players just sitting on their minmaxed gear, looking so horrible with a patchwork of crafted, allagan and myth pieces but hey, BiS..
And not even working anymore on coil with his class, because well, he just "got the best yet, i'll switch class, i'm bored".
Leading to a lack of roles of that "so beloved" core group.
A possible community issue, next months.
Now good luck telling to the healer to leave his spot because you're BiS and you want to roll that SCH
Lucky you if you got a huge FC with multiple core coil group waiting just you , your SCH desire and your boredom , BiS with a ugly patchwork of armor pieces

I respect the playstyle of a minmaxed player. Some truly love those 18 more dps points
Let's just try to not make this game an other stupid mmo with elitism and that pathetic "Hey, 2849 dmg points or kick him, do an inspect" (something i expect when vanity system will be out , some may try to hide their real "output" )
Those 2 posts summarize the point of this thread and what i meant
Quote Originally Posted by Seig345 View Post
I don't care if people minmax. What I find confusing is when I hear that this game is waaaay too easy, while at the same time people want you wearing the best of the best of the best (SIR, WITH HONORS!) because for the dear love of the twelve we need to shave EVERY G.D. SECOND off that run time! *froths at the mouth*

Although, that's probably just the result of people trying to use DF pugs to get a party with people who all just happen to want to run it the exact same way. So... *shrugs*
Quote Originally Posted by Archona View Post
Short answer, no.
Long answer noooooooooo. ilvl is most important, as long as you're wearing some kind of ilvl90 stuff, it doesn't really matter all that much. min/maxing helps your raid of course but is it necessary in this game? one can argue only for twintania, and even that is debatable. Min/maxing stats is always helpful, but never make or break. Min/maxing spell timings is often unnecessary and failure can lead to a wipe. Many tanks are 40-50 points over accuracy cap with their gear at some point and theres basically nothing they can do about it.

edit: I am a tank on turn 5.
Is he a god? Why minmax didn't fix turn 5?

If someone got lost: the core of the thread was: take care of your look, more than lead our community to the boring rule "minmax or nothing" on this game where minmax is not needed at all
Some crafted armor fullset are so cool. And even not minmaxing you will perform good enough to enjoy the content
Minmax if and when possible, if you're so fond to it. But don't pretend to turn this game and our community like some "well know" cesspool mmo out there where "minmax rule or kick"
On this game, minmax is not the key. ilvl 90 armor and you're done with your beloved "endgame", time to make your char cool

Also: you miss a guy for a coil run? Is he wearing a crafted set? He will perform the same exact way of a full DL set guy. Maybe he just chose that set, and extremely experienced about Coil. Oh hey, 8347 dps output instead of 8470, right
Like Archona said, even twintania with minimaxing is debatable, expecially when it's all a matter of player's performance, not numbers

p.s stick to the present, this thread was made today, and today we don't have vanity system online, we don't need an other post "meh soon vanity system will be online, who cares"