Does this game truly need minmaxing?

[Zantetsuken]

can you be any more condescending with people that plays the game different than you?

Over-inflated egos are the easiest to bruise.

[MieyCyruuuus]

Over-inflated egos are the easiest to bruise.

So I assume you get your enjoyment out of this game mostly by insulting random people?

[Zantetsuken]

So I assume you get your enjoyment out of this game mostly by insulting random people?

How were you insulted?

I take it that you disagree with my experiences and analysis?

Perhaps you can share with us your own anecdotal story about how a group of hardcores/server-firsts are really having the time of their lives with the game. Furthermore, share with us how much fun it is to play with them in-game (and with DF).



I welcome being proven wrong on these sorts of things.

[Majidah]

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What you said is the same as saying "all japanese people like sushi". I'm sure this is not true, it's a bland generalization based on your own stereotypes.
I'm an end-gamer, who loves min-maxing, and I enjoy the content as I play it. I read all the quests, I do all the side quests, I leveled my one unleveled job in ARR without fate grinding...

And the only reason we complain about lack of content is because coil can only be done once a week (and we are at that point in which we can clear it within 2 hours) and because we've capped our jobs in 1.0

Not to mention that AF2 is tied directly with how much time you've been playing. Which is pretty damn silly.

[Zantetsuken]

I'm an end-gamer, who loves min-maxing, and I enjoy the content as I play it. I read all the quests, I do all the side quests,

Respect~

So I take it you enjoy the game then?


However,

What you said is the same as saying "all japanese people like sushi"

You need to read more closely.

Most people who min-max and drive hard for endgame content don't seem to be enjoying much of anything from where I sit.

Sure, they'll scream "f***yeah" for 10sec solid after their FIRST big victory over any particular content, but the other 99.999999% of the time, they're yelling "WTF" at the game, at SE, and at other players.

Sadly, they appear to be a joyless bunch of content-addicts who are hell-bent on proving themselves in the game rather than actually enjoying it.



I could be wrong though. it could just be the 'hardcore hard-cores' on my server (and in DF)... maybe others are different?

So yeah, I've left plenty of room for hardcores who actually enjoy the game. But it's the exception rather than the rule, from what I've experienced.


It's like saying: "MOST Japanese like sushi." (which is true)

[EmSix]

Respect~

However,
You need to read more closely.
So yeah, I've left plenty of room for hardcores who actually enjoy the game. But it's the exception rather than the rule, from what I've experienced.

You're still making huge generalizations though. Whether you're using absolutes or not you're implying the majority is as you say they are.

[Zantetsuken]

You're still making huge generalizations though. Whether you're using absolutes or not you're implying the majority is as you say they are.

But is it true?

I could say that 99% of casual players choose Female Elezens as their char, and ppl would laugh.

I could say that 78% of former FFXI players lack the skills to dodge Garuda's whirlwind attacks, and ppl would laugh.

When I say that most hardcores just play compulsively and thus might not really ENJOY the game...

well...

[MieyCyruuuus]

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I think you are just delusional when it comes to over generalizing people. You are confusing people like try hard elitists, DF jerks, and people we enjoy progressing. If you can't see the difference they thats your own problem.

You are basically saying things like
"most Asians are good at math"
"most Americans are fat and stupid"
"most casuals are bad at the game"
"most conservative/liberals are stupid"
"most casuals can't enjoy the game because they aren't progressing"

[Molly_Millions]

So I assume you get your enjoyment out of this game mostly by insulting random people?

Judging by the duty finder, he wouldn't be alone.