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    zakalw3's Avatar
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    Wren Zakalwe
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Sure fire way to beat Titan:

    1. Start Titan group
    2. Ensure all joiners are geared well
    3. Ensure all joiners are patient
    4. If any one player continues to not learn from their mistakes, remove them politely.
    5. Keep going until your core group is strong enough/can learn enough to win.

    It might seem harsh, but you can beat Titan even if you fall fowl of the AOE issues. You just need to learn the rotations and preempt.

    The reason Titan is hard is because many players try without learning the rotation, or simply do not learn from their mistakes. If you try to carry these people you'll have an extremely frustrating time.

    If you feel bad about this, if you want I help those who can't learn, then wait until you've got Titan down and search for players with similar experience and mindsets and build a core group to aid/carry.

    While you're learning, you cannot carry those who refuse to/can't seem to learn.
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    My wife and I are in the same boat.
    Ask FC/LS no one wants to do it.

    DF seems to fail only got past the heart 2 times in about 15 parties.
    Our Gear sets are all Darklight or better. And well we are leveling alt jobs there is a point when if we can't finish content we will need to move on to another game.

    Also don't have time to build a party over 3-4 hour just to have it fail because really your hitting the lotto as much with prebuilt as you are with DF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post

    Also don't have time to build a party over 3-4 hour just to have it fail because really your hitting the lotto as much with prebuilt as you are with DF.
    DF has two tanks, which means you're gimped from the start. There is also no gear check, so many times people simply won't have good enough stats.

    Beating Titan will likely take a few hours of trying. You need the patience, and you need to commit to it AS A GROUP. This is why someone taking charge and ensuring the party is committed is almost essential.

    I guarantee you, you are more likely to win if you take the time to build and manage a shout group than spamming the DF. You will probably waste more time in DF overall anyway.
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    Player Yurikitty's Avatar
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    Yuri Shineko
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    DF seems to fail only got past the heart 2 times in about 15 parties. we are leveling alt jobs there is a point when if we can't finish content we will need to move on to another game.
    Also don't have time to build a party over 3-4 hour.
    If you are balking at putting together a party cause it might take you a few hours you are in the wrong game. Putting together a good party = 2 hours, being stuck on titan and not being able to progress, whats 2 hours at that point? This fight was done with 8 people in relics and binkis. It is not hard. Even as a healer. And OP, seriously man, you need to upgrade those accessories. As whms our cures are tied to our gear. You want your cures to hit for high numbers and you need that mana pool to be as fat as possible. Healers are the key to this fight, help yourself, make your gear as good as it can get. Or come to Midgard where we have a FC dedicated to running people though for fun.
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    Jyoeru Zaberu
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurikitty View Post
    If you are balking at putting together a party cause it might take you a few hours you are in the wrong game. Putting together a good party = 2 hours, being stuck on titan and not being able to progress, whats 2 hours at that point? This fight was done with 8 people in relics and binkis. It is not hard. Even as a healer. And OP, seriously man, you need to upgrade those accessories. As whms our cures are tied to our gear. You want your cures to hit for high numbers and you need that mana pool to be as fat as possible. Healers are the key to this fight, help yourself, make your gear as good as it can get. Or come to Midgard where we have a FC dedicated to running people though for fun.
    I appreciate "gear up" advice. I think it's evidenced by what I am wearing that I am in progress for that. I have been healing Titan since I got my Ifrit staff and was wearing mostly DF stuff. I have run numerous dungeons, and am only a few more off from having all blues to mitigate this sentiment. I assure you that while those last few trinkets will help, my lacking them is not the main reason I am stuck. I could be wearing full coil gear and there is nothing I could do to save a tank eating a bomb + mountainbuster. It's things like that which are holding the groups back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    My wife and I are in the same boat.
    Ask FC/LS no one wants to do it.

    DF seems to fail only got past the heart 2 times in about 15 parties.
    Our Gear sets are all Darklight or better. And well we are leveling alt jobs there is a point when if we can't finish content we will need to move on to another game.

    Also don't have time to build a party over 3-4 hour just to have it fail because really your hitting the lotto as much with prebuilt as you are with DF.
    Basically this right here. The DF issue I am pointing out is also that once people have done Titan, there is little incentive to do it again (at least in the DF). It's not like WP where people are farming 100 tomes. Titan is not worth pugging in DF to farm, I don't think. And most of the people I talk to are busy leveling other classes, or farming a Garuda weapon, or doing anything but messing around with Titan. I am slowly building a friend list of people I play with who are capable, but we're never on at the same time, so what we end up with is a bunch of people looking for their first kill. Not a problem. I am all for teaching, and I have patience, but after 300 attempts, something's gotta give.
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    Drako Rocks
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    Hyperion
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    few days ago my friend needed titan for his PLD, he got me and another friend in party, shouted once or twice in Mor Dhona, got pt filled in less than 3 minutes with randoms, we went in without saying anything and killed first try.
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    Katy Perry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    If you can't find or put a group together that's capable of doing Titan, you are going to have the same difficulty finding a group for coil.

    It sounds much more like a lack of determination on your part. You could either buy a run, or you could spend the time to make your own group of people that you know aren't bad, that you can coach through all the mechanics and get them experience and down it after some practice.

    If you don't want to spend the time making the money, or building the group and getting people experience, that's your problem and not a fault of the game. The point is you're not going about this the right way, you are looking to be carried. You want to be able to join a group that's 7/8 people and will go in and one shot it. It's not going to happen.

    Titan is not hard, it's only hard by association when compared to everything else in the game to that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itscoreylol View Post
    If you can't find or put a group together that's capable of doing Titan, you are going to have the same difficulty finding a group for coil.

    It sounds much more like a lack of determination on your part. You could either buy a run, or you could spend the time to make your own group of people that you know aren't bad, that you can coach through all the mechanics and get them experience and down it after some practice.

    If you don't want to spend the time making the money, or building the group and getting people experience, that's your problem and not a fault of the game. The point is you're not going about this the right way, you are looking to be carried. You want to be able to join a group that's 7/8 people and will go in and one shot it. It's not going to happen.

    Titan is not hard, it's only hard by association when compared to everything else in the game to that point.
    Can we frame this post and meme it as "Trolling: You're doing it right?"

    You can't possibly be serious with this reply? This is not at all what I asked for in my post at all. What part of knowing the fight enough to get to 10% before everyone else dies in any way indicates that I--or anyone like me--is wanting to be carried? Your post and your attitude are part of the problem, to be quite honest.

    And before you pop off about L2Heal and related: 90% of the deaths occur because people get bombed, or LS'ed off during bombs, or stand in a plume pile. That is nothing any healer can do anything about.

    Have a nice day!
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    quick question, are titan's attacks elementally based on earth? I'm just wondering whether applying a crapton of earth materia on your accessories might help mitigate some of his damage?
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