Scholar in Amdapor Keep

[Nukocafe]

I'm in need of some advice. I've been 50 for a few weeks now and I'm just running WP/Amdapor for tomstones/gears. We pretty much breeze through everything including the final boss but whenever we get to Demon Wall there's always problems.

I tried placing fairy at first but then I quickly realized she will get hit that way so I just have her next to me. However while she's next to me her healing potential is really "heal whoever's closest to me". Due to this her healing potential isn't as great and I really can't afford to manually control her when I'm busy doing jumping jacks between the purple blob.

Pretty much I go into Cleric and help with DPS until phase 3 with the bees in which I go into full healing mode but it seems like more often than not, the DPS keep dying because I'm busy focusing my healing on the tank. If I try to focus healing on a DPS, the tank ends up dying.


I'm not sure what to do here. Does anyone have any tips? Or is it really because the DPS can't stay out of the fire? I told one of the DPS's who I constantly saw in the purple blob to "mimic my movements" and it seems like once he was able to do so, he stopped standing in the fire and we finally managed to barely clear the wall and then sped through the rest of the dungeon. Also most people were in DL gear with healer & tank using IFrit weapons and Black Mage & Bard using Garuda weapons. So what's the issue here? Is it really just DPS at fault or is there something I can do to be a better healer?

[YuiSasaki]

Well, if i'm running ak (which is quite rarely lately because WP is much better - and faster in any aspects) i place my fairy in the middle lane just moving her after the repel. The middle lane is much better for her because she only gets a movement slow ( outer lanes apply a cast time increase), just healing her once in a while with the pet heal ability or an adloq (depending on my mood tbh) xD.

And yes, mostly the difference is if anyone gets hit (multiple times) on lane-dancing - the only thing you can do to help them is to remove the debuffs, if they get hit and try to heal up. Cast an Adloq on the tank before healing them with Physick and well if it wont hope blame it on the hunter... erm i mean mark yourself so they can see you better.

Another possibility would be to focus the adds, one after another you got about 4 (maybe 5?) repels till you cant avoid standing in the flooded area at the front of the room.

Mostly DW is a test of reaction (dodging the areas).

[Weltende]

You can place the Fairy in the middle column, she'll get hit for negligible damage and get the "Weight" debuff which really isn't a big deal. The sides are what give the Slow debuff AFAIK so obviously you want to keep it out of there. I usually just keep the fairy placed in the middle column and DPS until the second repel, only switching off Cleric Stance to Succor during the knockback. If the second repel is coming up and it doesn't look like you'll kill the wall before bees spawn, top your group off and prioritize healing either until the bees are dead (if you're focusing bees) or until the wall is dead (if you're ignoring bees). The only damage your group should be taking is from random Murder Holes which are handled easily by Embrace.

From what you're saying it sounds like you're approaching the fight correctly. Try it with Selene placed in the middle column, if your group is still taking a lot of damage some of your groupmates might be having positioning issues.

[GinTama]

if you have to heal at all before bees spawn, your party gets hit too much. I just throw in a succor before every repel and stay full dps till bees spawn where I heal till one bee drops and go dps again

[Bridgeburner]

if you have to heal at all before bees spawn, your party gets hit too much.

Healing pre-bees is not optional; the team will be taking unavoidable damage from Demon Wall's random single-target attacks.

Perhaps the writer meant "if you have to lose Cleric Stance at all" -- which I'd be more inclined to agree with.

[Whippet]

Healing pre-bees is not optional; the team will be taking unavoidable damage from Demon Wall's random single-target attacks.

Perhaps the writer meant "if you have to lose Cleric Stance at all" -- which I'd be more inclined to agree with.

He's right if YOU need to heal pre bees theres a problem

Eos or Selene can solo heal while you nuke

[Leon_Stormrage]

He's right if YOUR PARTY IS FULL DL + RELIC (SO THE UNAVOIDABLE ATACK DOESN'T HIT THEM SO MUCH) AND YOU need to heal pre bees theres a problem

Eos or Selene can solo heal while you nuke

I fixed it for you.

[Whippet]

I fixed it for you.

Eos can solo heal a pt at demon wall even if full GC gear dont be dumb

[XNihili]

He's right if YOU need to heal pre bees theres a problem

Eos or Selene can solo heal while you nuke

What equipement do you need for Eos to be able to solo heal ?
Mine didn't manage and I had to cast a bunch but I have only 2 DL (body and legs).

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

What equipement do you need for Eos to be able to solo heal ?
Mine didn't manage and I had to cast a bunch but I have only 2 DL (body and legs).

to be completely honest with you I have never had to pre heal demon wall before bee's spawn, the fairy is more than fast enough to cover any damage even without being placed ( which I do not do in that fight as it doesn't make since). with the gear you mentioned you should be fine going straight DPS and letting Eos or Selene heal the party, no one should take any heavy dmg ( they should be dodging the floor AOE) Murder holes will do minimal dmg as long as party is dodging, your fairy can heal easily solo even in base job gear!

but any advice here can be used just depends on your style of play, I my self do not place in DW and go straight DPS, if I see the wall wont fall before or close to bee spawn I go full heal and rotate succor on party and psy spam on tank with lus to cover anyone's big mistakes!

and lastly above all else your best friend should you have a bad party in DW is leeches (if you don't remove de-buffs it will make healing that much harder)