When Rapiers are implemented, remember one thing

[Azurus]

this thread has beena very interesting read, a nice break from the norm. Thanks to all those involved.

[OMEGA_HACK]

Well if SE is interested I can also teach them the proper ways to handle a Quarterstaff/lance (both use the same mechanics)

All three stances as well: Long-form, pike, and standard :O

(If they haven't caught on, I'm an actor combatant looking for work haha!)

[TessaJalloh]

Well if SE is interested I can also teach them the proper ways to handle a Quarterstaff/lance (both use the same mechanics)

All three stances as well: Long-form, pike, and standard :O

(If they haven't caught on, I'm an actor combatant looking for work haha!)

whilst a fun profession, stage fighting has very little basis in historical combat unless done specifically for historical accuracy.

please see here for the Main Gauche, or Parrying dagger. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrying_dagger

it's not a long article, but it is informative about a style of fighting long lost to modern fencing.

[Balbanes]

When Rapiers are implemented

I thought you were going to say "please don't call the job Rapist".

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Actually some fencing styles do have a buckler style shield present. Red mage is infact a magical fencer and is almost always seen weidling a rapier and shield.

[OMEGA_HACK]

Actually stage combat's roots are from the historical books on duels. I actually have a book right in front of me: Stage Fighting: A Practical Guide by Jonathan Howell that talks a lot about the historical tie-ins with different weapons and how modern film is butchering the historical styles (looking at you Star Wars and The Matrix!!) Albeit, as cool as they are they misuse the weapons' style.

If you want to see some good small sword/rapier fights look into the Duelist, or something a little more new The Borgias on Showtime (the first few episodes have some really good and historical stage fights, there is even one that uses Small Sword technique while the opponent uses Rapier technique).

[Duelle]

I hope if fencer does come to XIV they leave it void of any heal spells. Let the magic swordsman do what it was meant to do. Fight monsters with a magicked sword.

*blink* Wait, there people other than me out there that want Red Mage to use a rapier for magic-coated combat? Color me surprised. XD

On topic, I agree on the Fencer class having their own stance and selection of abilities. It needs to reflect the elegance associated to the rapier. Would be awesome if they also implemented the option to offhand a dagger to act as a main gauche.

[Aver]

*blink* Wait, there people other than me out there that want Red Mage to use a rapier for magic-coated combat? Color me surprised. XD

On topic, I agree on the Fencer class having their own stance and selection of abilities. It needs to reflect the elegance associated to the rapier. Would be awesome if they also implemented the option to offhand a dagger to act as a main gauche.

If they made RDM the way RDM was supposed to be, FFXIV would be more even more redmagefantasyXIV than XI was.

I, for one, would be on the bandwagon.

[Kurokikaze]

I think you guys need to forget about everything you saw in the dats because theres a good chance they won't get used.

I'm talking about Shepherd, Fencer, etc etc. Not so much for Arcanist and Musketeer.

No I'm not being pessimistic, I'm being realistic. If you can't see why I say that then you wouldn't agree with me even if I explained my point. So I will leave it at that.

[Elexia]

I was mostly talking about in general because it always irked me the way the Rapier (or Epee for those specific people :P) were handled in XI lol. Since it's inevtible they'll get around to adding Rapier class weapons since the long/broad/scimitar can only go so far.

Hell even in Ys VI Adol handled the Livart, Blirante and Ericcil (the Epee) differently xD.