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    misterrpg's Avatar
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    Hammer Bro
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    Really? Curtana +1? Interesting, you are probably only the second person to suggest curtana+1.

    Yeah, but the Turn 1 shield only has 7 Acc over the Holy Shield's 7 Skill Speed. That amount of acc will never help, so the Holy Shield IS a bonus somewhat xD

    Maybe I should just go Valor Surcoat.. I think it may be the biggest stat upgrade and its BiS.
    What do you think juniglee?
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    Last edited by misterrpg; 11-19-2013 at 06:06 PM.

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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by misterrpg View Post
    Really? Curtana +1? Interesting, you are probably only the second person to suggest curtana+1.

    Yeah, but the Turn 1 shield only has 7 Acc over the Holy Shield's 7 Skill Speed. That amount of acc will never help, so the Holy Shield IS a bonus somewhat xD

    Maybe I should just go Valor Surcoat.. I think it may be the biggest stat upgrade.
    What do you think juniglee?
    I'm still on regular Curtana, because 600 mythos spent on +1-ing isn't really fully utilized. You don't need the additional damage to hold aggro, and the stat upgrades are minimal. I did +1 my Shield however - I feel I made the right choice here, as I've done Coil for 4 weeks now, and no signs of the Shield (or the chest piece. Or the flanchards) from Turn 1. Keep in mind that, until 2.1, I expect most Coil parties to consist of 2 Paladins, and my current Coil partner does not have the Allagan shield either, so we'll both end up rolling for it, and one of us will miss out.

    I'm personally holding out for the Allagan Chest Piece, then planning to get Valor Circlet to round it off. That should put me way above the Accuracy cap, but seeing as I don't have my Allagan Flanchards yet, at least I can go for my Valor Cuisses + Hoplite Boots combination (the combined accuracy of these 2 parts puts me at 469 accuracy after food - a total of 8 less accuracy than my current Heavy Darklight Flanchards), because at 469 accuracy, I find that I was missing combo'ed attacks against the ADS in Turn 2. I may be over-emphasising the need for hitting the Accuracy cap, but a single miss on Fast Blade or Rage of Halone resets your combo, and thus slows down your enmity gain rate. Given how fast Bards and Black Mages gain aggro against a PLD with regular Curtana in Shield Oath, a miss is costly. Even worse, missing your silence against ADS as a backup silencer will also result in a wipe.

    If you upgrade to Valor Cuisses instead, you gain the same upgrades as you would upgrading Hoplite Tabard to Valor Surcoat, except you gain 24 Accuracy and 10 Parry, and losing 17 Critical Rate. The Cuisses and the Surcoat are of the same price. Later on down the road, if you think that you have no Accuracy problems, the Surcoat is a good purchase. The BiS sets listed above are overloaded on Accuracy from other parts (having the Allagan chest piece will put the set's accuracy to 500+, which is overkill), so the Surcoat is listed as BiS, since you don't need that additional Accuracy, and can get some extra Parry instead.
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    Ciana Iezuborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by misterrpg View Post
    Really? Curtana +1? Interesting, you are probably only the second person to suggest curtana+1.

    Yeah, but the Turn 1 shield only has 7 Acc over the Holy Shield's 7 Skill Speed. That amount of acc will never help, so the Holy Shield IS a bonus somewhat xD

    Maybe I should just go Valor Surcoat.. I think it may be the biggest stat upgrade and its BiS.
    What do you think juniglee?
    Curtana +1 first if you're planning on doing coil. From there check out Jahaudant's spread sheet for the goal for BiS, and check out Maelwys's break down of VIT per myth for an efficient path at spending Myths. Jah posted her link, you can get to Mael's breakdown if you check his post history above(Thanks Mael!). The order you buy drops in will be completely dependent on what drops for you in coil as you'll need to work your accuracy around those drops.

    Though if you're planning on doing coil for gods sake quit stacking str/dex over vit. I'm not going to waste post time beating down this retardness for yet another time, if you want reasons click on my post history and find what I've posted before.

    If you're not planning on doing coil get whatever you think looks coolest.
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    Last edited by CianaIezuborn; 11-20-2013 at 01:57 AM.