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  1. #31
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    Soulburn32's Avatar
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    i'm still not sure why so many people think they don't need to +1 their weapon........


    you can clear 1-4 easily in only DL gear (many people have done so)

    +1 Sword and Shield is myth well spent i have zero regrets on that being my first purchase
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  2. #32
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    Maelwys's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburn32 View Post
    i'm still not sure why so many people think they don't need to +1 their weapon........
    You do (unless you're going to be downing Turn 5 regularly) but it's less efficient than upgrading other gear, in terms of survivability increase per point of myth spent.

    ** Primary Points (Vit) gained per 100 Myth points spent: **

    1.333 Neck (Darklight --> Heroes) WARNING: -9 Acc
    1.333 Ear (Darklight --> Heroes)
    1.333 Wrist (Darklight --> Heroes) WARNING: -12 Acc
    1.333 Waist (Darklight --> Heroes) Bonus: +4 Acc
    0.667 Weapon (Relic --> +1) Bonus: +3 Acc, +3% WS Damage (and therefore enmity generation)
    0.667 Offhand (Relic --> +1) Bonus: approx +0.3% Damage Mitigation versus non-magic frontal attacks
    1.212 Hands (Darklight --> Heroes) WARNING: -16 Acc

    1.867 Ring (Hoplite/Darklight --> Heroes/Darklight) Bonus: +5 Acc
    1.333 Ring (Allagan/Darklight --> Allagan/Heroes) Bonus: +7 Acc

    0.404 Head (Darklight --> Valor Head/Hoplite Body) Bonus: +45 Acc
    1.818 Body (Valor Head/Hoplite Body --> Both Valor) WARNING: -24 Acc

    0.970 Body (Darklight --> Valor Body/Hoplite Head) Bonus: +15 Acc
    1.818 Head (Valor Body/Hoplite Head --> Both Valor) Bonus: +6 Acc

    0.970 Legs (Darklight --> Valor Legs/Hoplite Feet) WARNING: -8 Acc
    1.818 Feet (Valor Legs/Hoplite Feet --> Both Valor) Bonus: +10 Acc

    0.404 Feet (Darklight --> Valor Feet/Hoplite Legs) WARNING: -22 Acc
    1.818 Legs (Valor Feet/Hoplite Legs --> Both Valor) BONUS: +24 Acc


    If you're having trouble holding hate, then by all means upgrade the weapon (I am this week, purely because of the -25% slashing damage penalty on our Turn 2 route) but don't think you're getting more mitigation out of the deal by going for the +1 shield over a Hero's Ring if you have more than 300 myth to spend.
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  3. #33
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    Ciana Iezuborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by misterrpg View Post
    Really? Curtana +1? Interesting, you are probably only the second person to suggest curtana+1.

    Yeah, but the Turn 1 shield only has 7 Acc over the Holy Shield's 7 Skill Speed. That amount of acc will never help, so the Holy Shield IS a bonus somewhat xD

    Maybe I should just go Valor Surcoat.. I think it may be the biggest stat upgrade and its BiS.
    What do you think juniglee?
    Curtana +1 first if you're planning on doing coil. From there check out Jahaudant's spread sheet for the goal for BiS, and check out Maelwys's break down of VIT per myth for an efficient path at spending Myths. Jah posted her link, you can get to Mael's breakdown if you check his post history above(Thanks Mael!). The order you buy drops in will be completely dependent on what drops for you in coil as you'll need to work your accuracy around those drops.

    Though if you're planning on doing coil for gods sake quit stacking str/dex over vit. I'm not going to waste post time beating down this retardness for yet another time, if you want reasons click on my post history and find what I've posted before.

    If you're not planning on doing coil get whatever you think looks coolest.
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    Last edited by CianaIezuborn; 11-20-2013 at 01:57 AM.

  4. #34
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    I could care less if any other piece is better because the math says so.

    +1 Sword, 9 out of 10 people are not and will not being clearing turn 5 anytime soon when picking what to spend their first myth on.

    Buy the damn sword you will not regret it. Math is not the answer to all your gaming problems.
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    Last edited by Soulburn32; 11-20-2013 at 02:02 AM.

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburn32 View Post
    I could care less if any other piece is better because the math says so.
    +1 Sword, 9 out of 10 people are not and will not being clearing turn 5 anytime soon when picking what to spend their first myth on.
    I'm glad you like the Curtana +1.
    I like it too.

    (You'll notice I actually agreed with you that getting the +1 sword is nice, purely for the +3% DPS increase since it's a LONG road until the Allagan Blade)

    Though I should probably point out that EVEN AFTER YOU CLEAR turn 5, you'll still use the Heroes ring.
    Because you have two ring slots, and only one Allagan Ring.

    Math is not the answer to all your gaming problems.
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