Paladin BiS list?

[misterrpg]

What is the BiS slot list for Paladin that minimizes Parry so that you only reach the 482 cap for all turns of BC.

I have 900 myth to spend on and it looks like the Allagan chest piece is better than Valor.

The only non-contested clear winner between Valor and Allagan I can see is the Gauntlets.

Does anyone have a list of the BiS for Paladin? And I mean, BiS.

[Sigrunn]

BiS: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1437211

Comparison: http://i.imgur.com/HG6Cfz7.png

[misterrpg]

That actually isn't the true BiS list because Gryphonskin Ring HQ fully melded is BY FAR better than any of the other rings for tanking.

With those two rings, you can take out the Allagan gloves for Valor gloves to max out parry.

[symba]

Gryphonskin being better than Allagan/Heroes is debatable.

[juniglee]

Just ran some quick calcs:



Based on stat priority for tanks, you'll want to cap out your accuracy first, and then VIT/Parry, and then all other stats.

Based on the above setup, Hero's Ring of Fending and Gryphonskin Ring HQ fully melded (based on stats: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...g_dont_bother/) gives the most accuracy, at the cost of 5 VIT (14.5 HP per point of VIT at 50 I believe, so that's 72.5 HP loss). Also assume 9 DEX = under 1% parry, and a bit of block rate, based on above reddit thread, so you have a 1% parry increase.

However, if you then want to swap out to Valor Gauntlets, you will lose 21 accuracy, therefore the set of Hero's Fending/Allagan's Fending + Allagan Gauntlets gives you a total of 37 accuracy, whereas Hero's Ring + Gryphonskin Ring HQ melded + Valor Gauntlets gives you a total of 28 accuracy - a total of 9 accuracy loss, in exchange for a gain in 6 parry. Based on the BiS set in the thread posted earlier, your cap with the True BiS set would then be 475 with food - which means you will still miss hitting Twintania, which requires about 482 accuracy for the accuracy cap. Keeping with Allagan Gauntlets gives you a total of 49 accuracy, which puts you at 496 accuracy - which is overkill, for the loss of 72 HP or so.

If you choose to go with Allagan Fend/Gryphonskin Ring HQ/Allagan Gauntlets however, that puts you at 480 accuracy with the True BiS set, so that leaves you 2 short of the Turn 5 accuracy cap. Although, it would probably work with the pre-Turn 5 BiS set, since that has 491 accuracy, and losing 4 will put you at 487 accuracy, which is above the cap, for a profit of 1 parry (but the True BiS set has 29 more parry than the pre-Turn 5 BiS set however).

It's your decision as to whether that 72 HP and 9 accuracy loss is enough to warrant 6 increase in parry, spending a lot of gil on the Gryphonskin Ring HQ. I haven't tried with other combination of Allagan gear, but you are free to experiment around. Good luck!

[misterrpg]

Wow, you totally didn't include the other reasons why Gryphonskin Ring is better. Good job. How about that extra STR? What's people with Paladins. They're a mitigation-based tank for a reason. If you want to max out on VIT, go Warrior.

And you'd go two Gryphonskin Ring HQs to max out what you can. ;____; With that amount of accuracy you can go Valor Gauntlets.

If you are seriously trying to tell me that Allagan Ring > Gryphonskin Ring HQ melded, you're absolutely crazy.

[juniglee]

Wow, you totally didn't include the other reasons why Gryphonskin Ring is better. Good job. How about that extra STR? What's people with Paladins. They're a mitigation-based tank for a reason. If you want to max out on VIT, go Warrior.

And you'd go two Gryphonskin Ring HQs to max out what you can. ;____; With that amount of accuracy you can go Valor Gauntlets.

If you are seriously trying to tell me that Allagan Ring > Gryphonskin Ring HQ melded, you're absolutely crazy.

Um...what does 9 STR do for a tank? Or 18 for that matter? All PLD's as far as I know also go for a 30 VIT build, not a 30 STR build.

Unless you have some numbers about how STR affects tanking, there is a reason why people say go for a 30 VIT build, rather than a 20 VIT/10 STR build, or 30 STR build. Perhaps you can post your optimal Gryphonskin Ring HQ melded stats (I did take mine off a Reddit thread after all), and then you can re-run the same calculations again. The numbers are up there for you to look at. You can make a decision based on the numbers.

2x Gryphonskin Ring HQ + Valor Gauntlets gives you 24 Accuracy total, and 45 Parry.
Allagan Fend/Hero Fend + Allagan Gauntlets gives you 37 Accuracy total, and 42 Accuracy.

I am not crazy, I am drunk. But I can still see that unless you have at least 13 Accuracy over the Turn 5 Accuracy cap of 482, that 3 Parry isn't worth it. Unless you are content with a 477 Accuracy cap for Turn 4, which means even with food, you will miss a few attacks in Turn 5.

[symba]

In all honesty anything above 470 accuracy for turn 5 is fine, you'll still have a 99.8%+ accuracy rating. However gryphonskin offers 1-2% parry at most, the next tier of block/parry strength and a little more damage/enmity generation in exchange for 363~hp(well a little more than that when you factor in shield oath/defiance). 5 Melded gryphonskin is fine however for current content as it'll leave you at around ~6600+hp which is perfectly fine for turn 5. HP just allows for mistakes and reduces your chance of getting oneshot by twintania. Overall you're increasing your RNG based mitigation in exchange for solid visible health.

[Contemporary]

Just go full deeeeeeeps NBD

[misterrpg]

I went 30 STR actually for my PLD and having no issues at all and finally beat Titan hard mode today, again no problems. I have 338 STR right now, reaching a new parry tier. I need only 25 more STR (which I am assuming is possible through i90) for the next tier, which all really shows over a long fight.

If you really think the extra 30 STR mitigation does not help over a 12-14 minute fight then you're CRAZYYYY AND DRUNK. I'd never use the 450 HP. I only ever die if I get hit with a auto one-hit KO or if the healer is down (which I'd be down instantly anyway).

By the way, are you saying that Valor Gauntlets aren't BiS? Because you know... the links you gave me say it is and I agree, so why even link a page saying it's BiS when you are saying it isn't.......?