Bring back the ammo Market!

[lol123]

i would grately pay a crafter for different types of arrows i like this.

[Daniolaut]

We confirmed with the battle team that there are currently no plans to reintroduce ammo in future updates.

Praise the twelve.. please never revert back to that horrid system!

[Ryans]

I played Bard as main through most of 1.0 and the consumable arrows was one of my least favourite aspects of the game.

I do not want consumable arrows to return
I do not want 3-4 slots of my inventory filled with stacks of arrows
I do not want 3-6 slots of my inventory filled with stacks of Ingots, Branches and Feathers so I can craft more when I run out
I do not want to have to pay exorbitant prices for the arrow making items or arrows
I do not want to have to spend all my non-raiding time farming mats for making arrows
I do not want my stats and damage based on the quality of a consumable
I do not want to have to spend ages per synth to try and get HQ arrows to maximise damage for high end content
I do not want my skills and dots to rely on the type of arrow
I do not want to have to have 10 macros to equip each type of arrow before using skills
I do not want to have to stop mid fight and access my character screen to requip a fresh stack when the old run runs out
I do not want to have to not play my main class when farming dungeons for Philosophy so I don’t waste the gil/time spent on making arrows

We already have several dots (Poison, Wind, Fire) and debuffs (Damage Down, Silence, Bind) as skills. We don’t need arrows to do this for us. I could point out a dozen things about other classes that are far from realistic. I’ll keep using my invisible arrows, thank you very much.



If you want a fancy quiver with exchangable arrow heads, the thrill of running out of arrows mid fight and the labour of scavenging arrows after a battle, go watch the Avengers. Hawkeye does a good job of that.

Wouldn't you want all that if it meant that you guys got to keep your dps potential untouched? Bards are getting nerfed because it is too easy to get high dps numbers, but Ranger was the same in FFXI. That is because SE's thinking was that if you are going to spend money to put out damage, you deserve higher numbers. As it is now, Bard's damage should at least be lower than melee and in reality it should probably the lowest DD class.

[Squiggles]

Wouldn't you want all that if it meant that you guys got to keep your dps potential untouched? Bards are getting nerfed because it is too easy to get high dps numbers, but Ranger was the same in FFXI. That is because SE's thinking was that if you are going to spend money to put out damage, you deserve higher numbers. As it is now, Bard's damage should at least be lower than melee and in reality it should probably the lowest DD class.

except any similar geared class can put out similar if not higher numbers, bard isn't some magic easy damage class like summoner or dragoon. the problem lies in how too many fights rely on moving out of AOE as their primary mechanic. with more fights like garuda or ADS around, and less like titan, the less of a problem bard becomes.

however, on topic, this thread's idea is the worst idea possible. consumables make ridiculous balance issues, no class should have to pay gil to play it properly, nor should it get bonuses for paying gil to upgrade it.

[XNihili]

When doing Ifrit and trying to destroy the nails without BLM or SMN, I can see that Bard are not the almighty DPS some people claim it to be.
It can do AOE but its burst damage is quite weak compared to the other DPS (not counting the LB).

[NightWrath]

I hate ammo system, always take useful slot from my inventory for this, i'm against.

[Craiger]

I'd love to see something like this implemented (not exactly this though) to make the game more interesting, but I don't want players to simply have to buy or craft ammo or other things like it.... In the end it will just be a thing you have to buy every now and then, and be more annoying than fun.

I don't know what system I would like instead, but it should be something more than just having to buy stuff.

This isn't in plans anyways, and something like this will never be introduced into a casual MMO (99% of MMO's)

[NightWrath]

Wouldn't you want all that if it meant that you guys got to keep your dps potential untouched? Bards are getting nerfed because it is too easy to get high dps numbers, but Ranger was the same in FFXI. That is because SE's thinking was that if you are going to spend money to put out damage, you deserve higher numbers. As it is now, Bard's damage should at least be lower than melee and in reality it should probably the lowest DD class.

I prefer a huge nerf on bard and stop playing it, the ammo system back, because would make me quit for sure.

[NeruMew]

I'd much rather see them add quivers for our ranged slot. They could enhance abilities in some way, add additional effects or just simply add stats. (Current game, "stats" would be the easiest to add).

• Basic ones (like all other gear) could be crafted. Yay economy!

• Better ones could come from dungeons or raids.

• They would be an equipable, non-consumable item, meaning you get it once and keep it. Or turn it into that spiffy fire materia IV you've always wanted.

• They would go into your offhand armory chest, making inventory management a non issue (With all classes 50 you barely half fill it).

Yessss!!! I agree, and have them add visual effects (not present on every quiever). Such as fire/thunder/ice/poison infused arrows (missing earth maybe, but wouldn't make much sense :P unless they are dirty arrrows!). And have them either do additional elmental damage (affected by resistances) or just sheer visual effects.

I don't think you can see arrows, it would be nice if you could (haven't played close attention) but if there are they are not obvious enough :P

And on the ammo topic, I think it's a nice addition. I love ammo system as well, but I agree it has to be balanced enough (so it's not significant in price, either by making few mats make many arrows, easy to craft, no HQ available as it would make it unbalanced having fluctuating dmg depending on the quality of your ammo). But yeah, I believe if implemented right it doesn't have to have a negative impact.

[LittleArrow]

We confirmed with the battle team that there are currently no plans to reintroduce ammo in future updates.

Thank goodness. Ammo is such a useless money sink in games. We have enough in this one without any real way to pull money from the game aside from repair gil from a couple dungeons. : /

No thanks to the 'elite' bought class. I despised how Ranger was handled in FFXI. Only those that had heavy pockets could play that class or fund their crafting to carry those ammo costs. What a messed up system. XD