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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa View Post
    you do not need a parser to test this out.

    Goto any training dummy, or mob. Set your pet to 'Obey' (this will mean it only casts its primary 3s cd nuke, and nothing else unless it has a autoattack like Ifrit/Titan appears to).
    Click over to your 'Battle' log, and you can see each hit damage
    Garuda 100 potency hits for me for 190 each attack
    Ifrit 120 potency hits for me for 130 attack
    the numbers may differ for you, but this is my results at lvl 50 with relic and some mixed gear.

    higher potency skill, less damage. Is there some sort of inner scaling that we do not know about?
    No one knows if it's a bug or not, but I'm guessing it isn't because Ifrit would do more raw DPS than Garuda if his attack was used on CD properly.

    My idea is that it may be Ifrit scaling off the physical damage of books, whereas Garuda scales off the magical damage. It would make sense, since Ifrit needs DK for more damage, while Garuda needs FR. The numbers are similar enough that this is my best guess. Garuda does roughly the same damage as ifrit when switching to a book of electrum, which has 46 magic damage(relic+1 has 46 physical damage).
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    Last edited by Kevee; 11-19-2013 at 03:20 PM.

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    Caelus Kasandaro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    My idea is that it may be Ifrit scaling off the physical damage of books, whereas Garuda scales off the magical damage.
    Thought it also had been tested/proved that Ifrit damage used the SMN's STR-at-casting in the equation, while Garuda used INT? And/or that Ifrit tests against PDef, while Garuda tests against MDef? Anyone got enough STR gear to test?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasandaro View Post
    Thought it also had been tested/proved that Ifrit damage used the SMN's STR-at-casting in the equation, while Garuda used INT? And/or that Ifrit tests against PDef, while Garuda tests against MDef? Anyone got enough STR gear to test?
    I would think such a test not the best use of a summoner's time. Why, ever, would you want to use STR gear over INT gear? Even if it actually raised Ifrit's DPS, it would lower all your other DPS.

    That silly
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    I would think such a test not the best use of a summoner's time. Why, ever, would you want to use STR gear over INT gear? Even if it actually raised Ifrit's DPS, it would lower all your other DPS.

    That silly
    Oh, I don't disagree that full-timing STR gear would be...silly, but if it makes a difference to Ifrit, would it be be worth it to summon in a STR set, then switch to an INT set?

    ...gearset creep, I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasandaro View Post

    ...gearset creep, I know.
    I can understand your thinking here, but you can't switch gear in combat and even if you're just trying to snapshot a certain stat onto Ifrit, there are several buffs and abilities (spur, fey illumination?) that will re-snapshot the pet back to what you're currently wearing, usually making it not worth it in the first place (or having a very limited use).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasandaro View Post
    Thought it also had been tested/proved that Ifrit damage used the SMN's STR-at-casting in the equation, while Garuda used INT? And/or that Ifrit tests against PDef, while Garuda tests against MDef? Anyone got enough STR gear to test?
    No, Ifrit uses INT.

    PDef/MDef is a non-issue because they do the same damage to all mobs.
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