Problem with summoner DPS pet issue.

[Pumra]

Ifrit is not bugged. He doesn't spam his main ability like Garuda because of auto attack. If you combine his auto attack with his main attack its the same damage as Garuda's attack. What needs to happen is his auto attack speed increased so he will then use his ability every time its up. Even still his damage/usefulness would not be on par with Garuda.

[Kevee]

Ifrit is not bugged. He doesn't spam his main ability like Garuda because of auto attack. If you combine his auto attack with his main attack its the same damage as Garuda's attack. What needs to happen is his auto attack speed increased so he will then use his ability every time its up. Even still his damage/usefulness would not be on par with Garuda.

No, his auto attack does not delay his ability. He is not bugged in that aspect. He acts the same as any physical DPS class/job.

He is bugged in that he doesn't use the skill on CD like Garuda.

[Squa]

No, his auto attack does not delay his ability. He is not bugged in that aspect. He acts the same as any physical DPS class/job.

He is bugged in that he doesn't use the skill on CD like Garuda.

you do not need a parser to test this out.

Goto any training dummy, or mob. Set your pet to 'Obey' (this will mean it only casts its primary 3s cd nuke, and nothing else unless it has a autoattack like Ifrit/Titan appears to).
Click over to your 'Battle' log, and you can see each hit damage
Garuda 100 potency hits for me for 190 each attack
Ifrit 120 potency hits for me for 130 attack
the numbers may differ for you, but this is my results at lvl 50 with relic and some mixed gear.

higher potency skill, less damage. Is there some sort of inner scaling that we do not know about?

[Kevee]

you do not need a parser to test this out.

Goto any training dummy, or mob. Set your pet to 'Obey' (this will mean it only casts its primary 3s cd nuke, and nothing else unless it has a autoattack like Ifrit/Titan appears to).
Click over to your 'Battle' log, and you can see each hit damage
Garuda 100 potency hits for me for 190 each attack
Ifrit 120 potency hits for me for 130 attack
the numbers may differ for you, but this is my results at lvl 50 with relic and some mixed gear.

higher potency skill, less damage. Is there some sort of inner scaling that we do not know about?

No one knows if it's a bug or not, but I'm guessing it isn't because Ifrit would do more raw DPS than Garuda if his attack was used on CD properly.

My idea is that it may be Ifrit scaling off the physical damage of books, whereas Garuda scales off the magical damage. It would make sense, since Ifrit needs DK for more damage, while Garuda needs FR. The numbers are similar enough that this is my best guess. Garuda does roughly the same damage as ifrit when switching to a book of electrum, which has 46 magic damage(relic+1 has 46 physical damage).

[Kasandaro]

My idea is that it may be Ifrit scaling off the physical damage of books, whereas Garuda scales off the magical damage.

Thought it also had been tested/proved that Ifrit damage used the SMN's STR-at-casting in the equation, while Garuda used INT? And/or that Ifrit tests against PDef, while Garuda tests against MDef? Anyone got enough STR gear to test?

[xxalucard]

Thought it also had been tested/proved that Ifrit damage used the SMN's STR-at-casting in the equation, while Garuda used INT? And/or that Ifrit tests against PDef, while Garuda tests against MDef? Anyone got enough STR gear to test?

I would think such a test not the best use of a summoner's time. Why, ever, would you want to use STR gear over INT gear? Even if it actually raised Ifrit's DPS, it would lower all your other DPS.

That silly

[Kasandaro]

I would think such a test not the best use of a summoner's time. Why, ever, would you want to use STR gear over INT gear? Even if it actually raised Ifrit's DPS, it would lower all your other DPS.

That silly

Oh, I don't disagree that full-timing STR gear would be...silly, but if it makes a difference to Ifrit, would it be be worth it to summon in a STR set, then switch to an INT set?

...gearset creep, I know.

[Kevee]

Thought it also had been tested/proved that Ifrit damage used the SMN's STR-at-casting in the equation, while Garuda used INT? And/or that Ifrit tests against PDef, while Garuda tests against MDef? Anyone got enough STR gear to test?

No, Ifrit uses INT.

PDef/MDef is a non-issue because they do the same damage to all mobs.