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    amnie's Avatar
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    Ava Adore
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    Botanist Lv 70
    and people wonder why I said legacy 50s should just roll a new character :P

    on a more serious note..
    I don't care if people are bored and don't like to do 'everything'. it's a legitimate feeling they have that there is nothing to do for them.

    what I do find to be annoying is the thought process that just because they are bored and have nothing to do that they have any ground to stand on. people who reach endgame usually quickly lose the 'whole picture' and eventually think everyone and their mother is as far as they are, or that for some reason they present the majority just because everyone they engage in has 3 lvl 50s in relic+1.

    or take this forum for example:
    if you don't have your main class lvl 50 you are extremely restricted. naturally the majority of posts happen by lvl 50s. that in turn gives you the very wrong picture that the majority is 50. this is not the case.
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    Altena Trife
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by amnie View Post
    what I do find to be annoying is the thought process that just because they are bored and have nothing to do that they have any ground to stand on. people who reach endgame usually quickly lose the 'whole picture' and eventually think everyone and their mother is as far as they are, or that for some reason they present the majority just because everyone they engage in has 3 lvl 50s in relic+1.
    .
    I would very much like to see the numbers on the percentage of the playerbase at level cap, that have at least 1 relic.

    I would bet that the majority of the playerbase does, and that a minority do not at this point. In addition to this - even if it took someone 1 full month since release to hit level cap (which is unlikely), they would have about 2400 mythology to spend on i90 gear.
    That is a +1 relic, a relic body or pants slot, and one additional armor slot..
    By the time 2.1 will be released, we will have approximately another 1200 mythology points to spend (which is another major slot like pants & 1 more armor slot..)


    In addition to this, if a player did not complete even 1 turn of coil, they would have a minimum of 6400 philosophy points to spend (pre-AK point buff) - simply by doing enough dungeons to cap myth each week.

    It is getting to the point where going into a lv50 DF dungeon, at least 2 of the 4 people have relics, and quite often more..

    Simply walking around town makes this pretty evident..
    Although my observations may be skewed on a Legacy server, the observations of DF dungeons are not.

    Sorry to say, but yes - everyone and their mother are as far as this.. Unless you purchased the game last week, or spent more then 1 month getting your first class to cap, this is a very real situation.

    Edit-

    In addition to this, all of this is achieved by spamming the same 4, level 50 dungeons.
    If someone did not do coil, this would be 8 AK runs per week. (Yes, only 2 a day at most. This takes 2-3 hrs a day at worst case, if you do not SR).
    This is a total of 64 dungeon runs over the course of 2 months. Keep in mind, this is also between only 2 different dungeons.

    Finally I would like to add, that I actually did create an alternate character, partly so I could see what the game is like for a new player, and also so I had more stuff to do and get past the 300 mythology cap. I made this character 2 weeks ago.

    While this may seem on the more "hardcore" side of things, I reached level 50 within the first week, capped mythology and am now completely upgraded (with relic) in i70 gear in every slot aside from feet, waist and 1 ring.

    So in 2 weeks I am coil-ready and completed T1 with a PUG.

    Tomorrow I will be getting my +1 relic for this character.. It is going into the 3rd week..
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    Last edited by Altena; 11-18-2013 at 12:56 PM.