Combat will be what kills this game [end of days! redeem! blah blah!]

[Omagana]

Yeah its called personnal timing not setted up correctly. Fights and cooldowns in this game are extremely precise, its up to you to optimise what to do within the timeframes. Blamin gamedesign because well, you suck, sound like a bit exagarated.

[Sygmaelle]

I'm sorry for you People over here dont have a single problem at soloing Ifrit NM / Garuda NM as tanks, bards are silencin stuff while dpsin all the time, that kind of things. It is and always will be relyin strictly on timing. So yeah instead of blamin gamedesign ... -insert a random get better conclusion here-

[Omagana]

Your use of "extremely precise" is what had me laughing, the game is demonstrably not.

[StarMarmot]

Yeah its called personnal timing not setted up correctly. Fights and cooldowns in this game are extremely precise, its up to you to optimise what to do within the timeframes. Blamin gamedesign because well, you suck, sound like a bit exagarated.

I don't have any issues stunning or silencing while I do other things personally. I can adapt to the messy animation locks, the slow activations and the finicky off GCD actions. I just think it makes for very clunky gameplay when abilities won't happen when you press the key, or won't happen at all when you press the key because the designers thought it to be more important to show complete animations than to have responsive controls. It's not a matter of my performance. It's a matter of my enjoyment.

If you think the game is "extremely precise", that's all well, but your definition of precise gameplay is probably not the same as mine. To me, this game is the least precise MMO I've ever tried. It's like the first Castlevania. You could argue that game is super precise, but really, it's extremely clunky and annoying to play. Castlevania also makes heavy use of animation locks for everything you do.

I don't hate FFXIV. I'm having a lot of fun. I just would like for the controls to be better.

[Sygmaelle]

I don't hate FFXIV. I'm having a lot of fun. I just would like for the controls to be better.

Ha, ok ... my bad sir. You know there's something I noticed today, actually skill / spell speed make "chaining" of skills less "clunky". Like I dont know how to explain it, on my scholar when I have to do Ruin + Ruin 2 + Energy Drain for example, without the spell speed buff given by Selene I can't really do it flawlessly. However, with it activated it's just super smooth.

Weird ? definitely

[Steeled]

You want more evidence of the silly lag? Fine.

Cast stoneskin on a target, watch them gain the buff in their short 5-icon bar, they take damage (as in, their hp goes down), and they still have stoneskin.

Some people's blind stammering defense of this just baffles me. Yeah, there's a dozen people in this thread saying it's fine and good, because the people that truly dislike it will quit. They'll go back to other mmos where combat functions smoothly, because you have the right to expect that.

i almost stopped reading after i saw "TERA" and "AAA MMO" in the same sentence,
that game was a complete mess, awful cutscenes where the lipsynch didnt fit the voice and the english voice didnt say the same as the english subtitle, AAA indeed

I won't argue for a single second that beyond the combat, which TERA did better than anyone, and graphics (you might not like the style of art, but the quality of graphics were good), TERA phoned-it-in on everything else. Still, it was a "AAA" mmo. The reason TERA's questing, cs's, etc sucked was because they clearly didn't even try.

Same is true for TSW. The game was AAA, and while the style of art was good, the graphics were pretty good, the questing was what they focused on and phoned-it-in on so much else, especially the combat, that the game quickly fizzled.

i personally enjoy the combat of ARR because you can actually think about your next move for a second instead of spamming your moves asap until your fingers bleed,
the raise issue got recognised and gets fixed soon, you should keep up with the dev posts^^

Soon(tm)

[Sygmaelle]

I won't argue for a single second that beyond the combat, which TERA did better than anyone

Actually Age of Conan got the best combat system up to date. Tera doesn't hold up the comparison the thing I really liked with Tera tho was that you couldn't "finish" your combo on an escaping target, that was pretty neat.

Otherwise for my "precision" argue, I was mainly talkin about timings and everything for any fight in any dungeon. Lag is a completely different issue and while it's a shame for those who are affected by and got some really crazy happenings because of, those who don't have any are actually truelly enjoyin.

Dont throw stones on me, I'm just sayin !

[Welsper59]

A lot of credibility is lost when someone says "like they should be" or things along those lines.

[DSanchez]

All I want for Christmas is a non-shitty combat system in FFXIV.

[SpookyGhost]

If you hate latency/lag issues in FF14 I'm not sure why TERA is in any way considered a better combat system.