Speed runs an Exploit??

[Asdamine]

Pretty sure ALL of the people that were crying over a month ago about the game having too many gil sinks and not enough ways to introduce gil back into the economy are all giving many "f*cks" about those 50 gil. Those 50gil were added thanks to you the community.

Those whiners are gonna whine lol. SE just throw them a bone, they are gonna come back. I made 300k today selling 12 potash just doing my normal myth cap runs, and that happens every week (oh, and I still got 3 more runs to do this week, so 90k more incoming). Talk about easy cash...

[aray0002]

Pretty sure ALL of the people that were crying over a month ago about the game having too many gil sinks and not enough ways to introduce gil back into the economy are all giving many "f*cks" about those 50 gil. Those 50gil were added thanks to you the community.

The gill was always intended to drop from mobs. The reason they did not at first was because of the "Free to play a Month" clause.

RMT / GOLD Sellers would have had really easy time earning gil to sell.

When subscriptions when live... the RMT's were now paying SE to stay in game.

So money they earn in gil is going right back to SE in monthly fee's.

[Sygmaelle]

hey also said DD was not an exploit, yet got nerfed.

Except that its not nerfed, its bugged Devs told so haha

[Donjo]

I'm honestly not sure that this will get nerfed at all. The crux of WP Speedruns is taking extreme risks in the name of doing it more quickly, not exploiting bugs and oddities in the game itself or avoiding half of the monsters in the dungeon. Sure, the structure of the dungeon probably never intended for us to aggro every enemy before the dungeon's first boss at once, but more power to you if you can actually survive. Even the boss barrier trick is a calculated risk: The boss fight can get dicey if mobs actually enter the arena with us, and the Tank is fending off damage from more than just the boss for that first 15 seconds.

That being said, I do think it's odd for monsters to just spontaneously ignore the party when a barrier pops up in front of them. I think it would be hilarious if they still tried to chase the party and immediately swooped in for the kill once the boss is dead

[WellFooled]

He left? What an idiot. "THIS IS FASTER AND NOT FAIR, I'M OUT!"

Why make fun of someone for acting on their conscience? It makes sense that he might consider it an exploit, since similar tactics have been removed by SE in the past. Takes a lot of courage to explain your feelings to a group of people who obviously don't agree -and- take a sacrifice in time by leaving. Sounds like he cares about honesty.

[Sterob]

Why make fun of someone for acting on their conscience? It makes sense that he might consider it an exploit, since similar tactics have been removed by SE in the past. Takes a lot of courage to explain your feelings to a group of people who obviously don't agree -and- take a sacrifice in time by leaving. Sounds like he cares about honesty.

what does conscience have anything to do here? Why does choosing whether to kill some certain mobs involve conscience? Cant the player make a choose how do they fight? Does it mean it is an exploit if someone use water to fight fire?

[WellFooled]

what does conscience have anything to do here? Why does choosing whether to kill some certain mobs involve conscience? Cant the player make a choose how do they fight? Does it mean it is an exploit if someone use water to fight fire?

The player can make a choice on how they want to do the fight, the guy who left choose not to do the dungeon like the rest of the group. His conscience was why he made the choice and now he's getting mocked because of trying to be honest. Whether the method used was an exploit or not doesn't matter, he didn't feel right doing it. Why should we insult someone because of this? :/

[PetiteMalFleur]

Some people just don't like speed runs. It's so easy to find a group to do them with why join DF and expect one?