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    SCH Theory - Dropping MND for Crit?

    For the Start, this is my actual SCH build (Without Food/Deviled Eggs & Party Bonus)


    I'm actually struggling with a Question: Do i drop the Shoes + Hat (Crit Maxed) for non Crit iLv90s? (Both, Allagan & Argute doesn't have crit) The Raw healing power is no problem atm. (T5) So isn't it better to push the shield with crit's instead the heal with mnd?
    Whats your opinion about Crit > MND at a certain point?
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    sharazisspecial's Avatar
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Never its always better to have higher consistent healing as a healer .

    Crit rating is like spell speed where you need a ridiculous amount for it to have any effect.

    T5 you spam physick and just pre shield every death sentence. With a virus, eye for an eye ,rain of death with the whm timing cure2 properly. You should be fine.

    Wasn't it reported 500 crit= 17% crit which is very unreliable. Ilvl90 is better for the higher hp , higher mind, higher mana. Sacrificing so much isn't worth it.

    Besides like you say TT isn't that healing intensive. You can easily heal TT in ilvl70 with relic+1. Collect crit gear at your leisure and post your results.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 11-19-2013 at 12:20 AM.

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    Honestly I got 567 crit with deviled eggs on and man, it's sick. Especially when Mantra / Convalescence / any healing buff you can think about is on. Not rare that you chain 2k+ physik combined with at least 1k embrace at the same time.

    The more you crit, the best it is. But yeah adloquium is however crit capped, its gonna mainly affect your heals and those of the fairy.

    On top, when you wanna do speed runs in AK its kinda ridiculous ... more crit = more chance to have crit ticks on your dots / shadowflare / energy drain.
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    Last edited by Sygmaelle; 11-19-2013 at 12:16 AM.

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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Use the i90, no contest for a healer.
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    For scholar its different ... if he dont have problems with healing, I say, go for more crit.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/4856937/

    Plannin to just replace belt and legs (and finish to get the last crafted astral pieces I miss). In dungeons I use Deus Ex Gratia fully crit melded on trash mobs and swap to relic on bosses


    Only "advantage" that'd bring the ilvl90 to that setup is the mind boost. With full lvl 90, in cleric stance it'd certainly grant me some ridiculous support dps ... as a healer.
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    Last edited by Sygmaelle; 11-19-2013 at 12:26 AM.

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    Don't forget that MND helps your fairy too



    Focus on Main stat first
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    Doesn't det help fairy too ?
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    Player Whippet's Avatar
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    Yes but even less then it helps you

    1 MND = 1.175 HP for Physick (average)
    1 MND = 0. somethig for Embrace iirc

    5 DET = 1 mnd

    Make the mats :P
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    Semir No'haelis
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    I'm personally going to try the full on ilevel 90 critical build. Yeah, there's more RNG involved and I will drop a bit on my physick average heal.

    However, there are some things that I find compelling enough to try. For instance, Succor treats every individual target as a new critical roll. While you can't pick who gets the critical, it vastly increases your total raid heal. Due to relatively lower potency as compared to WHM, your MND and DET stats will have less of an effect anyway.

    Furthermore, you have to remember scholars are treated as two entities. Thus, you need to effectively double your individual skill critical chance. Even getting one crit on either Embrace or Physick will raise your total heal over a pure MND/DET build. A critical adlo is the most efficient strong heal in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    But yeah adloquium is however crit capped, its gonna mainly affect your heals and those of the fairy.
    This is actually the first time I'm hearing of this and now you've gotten my attention, whats the % rate cap at? Was there some testing posted somewhere to back this up ?

    Also, while this is slightly off topic, anyone else notice there embraces criting far more often then physick/aldo? Could just be coincidence but wasn't sure if the fairy's crit had a slight increase in relation to your base crit when summoned.
    Anyways carry on, I'd love to see it if there really is some testing on the aldo crit % rate cap.
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