Whats allowed for multiboxing if Dev. could please answer/shed light on

[DSN]

In Dungeon Fighter, I would see 4 guys of the same class and subclass, with very similar names. All enter a dungeon at the same time. I hear they can clear dungeons without even using items (stuff dies by hacks). Then they sell the profit from those runs to gold sellers, and gold sellers sell it to the players. Then the economy has incredibly high prices, pushing regular players to also buy gold. And the circle goes round and round.

Now your confusing RMT with multiboxing, not all multiboxers are RMT and not all RMT multibox.

Also you seem confused about the impact RMT has on the economy, they don't sell items for ungodly prices, they don't want to wait for items to sell and risk more time where they can be caught and have items removed and characters banned. If anything they drive prices way down making them more affordable for all and killing profit margins for legitimate players.

[DarkStaoneDragon]

On the server were playing on now were only like lvl 7-8 so the whole BS of us buying/selling Coil runs is just that BS... geez (even when we do reach that lvl we wouldn't)
so to break it down she can have a total of 3 master accounts I have 1 and she can play on her PS3 and 2 PC's using controllers (Gamepads for the paranoid) for the PC's and PS3 and use macros to keep her characters in a group as long as its not using 3rd party programs to automate movement/actions, it would still be nice for a Dev/Mod to shed some light on this, but we understand that they are busy.

thanks for the helpful replies

[Kaethra]

Doesn't seem to be anything against the rules about multiboxing. You can just alt tab between the instances loaded. However there is a strict rule for any 3rd party programs, not a 100% sure how they feel about things like KeyClone being used to send one command to multiple instances. I know Blizzard was fine with it as long as one action was one keypress, but they disabled using multiple actions in a macro. Its different here, so I'm not sure SE will allow that program or those like it. Its always best to get a dev response on programs like KeyClone before using them. I doubt they'll allow it here because of the macro system in FFXIV is a little more complex than most other games.

Don't worry about others saying boxing is illegal or cheating. They are either ignorant or jealous.

[Accolades]

I use to multi box ffxi. I did it cause it was huge fun not for an advantage.

[Taaz]

Sure, if you are multiboxing by doing each action yourself, without third party program assistance, you are fine.

However, every person i've seen multiboxing in ffxiv has been using third party software, it's blatantly obvious and when asked about it i was directed to pwnboxer, ISBoxer,Hotkeynet, and other multiboxing programs.

I myself wanted to try multiboxing out to get ahead of the game( if you say you arent ahead by multiboxing you are kidding yourself) but haven't liked a mmo i've played THAT much to pay for 3-4 accounts.

Personally, I dont see it as cheating even with third party software as they are paying the cost to be the boss, for THEIR own accounts(RMT sells what they bot, which imo is another story).

My point here is the basis of this question and discussion is fake from the beginning by assuming multiboxers arent using those programs, when we know they are.

[Naunet]

However, every person i've seen multiboxing in ffxiv has been using third party software, it's blatantly obvious and when asked about it i was directed to pwnboxer, ISBoxer,Hotkeynet, and other multiboxing programs.

Multiboxing programs aren't botting programs. They don't automate anything. They simply link all the clients up to the same input from your keyboard, so that if you press W to move forward, that input goes to all 2 or 3 or however many XIV clients you have open instead of just the one. The player is still manually controlling everything.

[Tsukino]

I've never heard anyone refer to multi-boxing as cheating before now. "Now I've seen everything," as they say.

[Baneus]

I've never heard anyone refer to multi-boxing as cheating before now. "Now I've seen everything," as they say.

I have. All the time in every MMO I've ever played (starting with EQ). And they always state their opinion like it's an irrefutable fact and then sulk or throw a tantrum when people don't automatically agree with them. People like that inspired my sig.

[Riviere]

Multi-boxing is cheating now? Heh, kids these days.

[Karos]

This topic comes up every once and a while, and unfortunately, I highly doubt there will ever be any clarification or an official statement. A search of "multiboxing" on the forums date back to 2011.

I've detailed my method on another thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...aw-the-lineand

I don't care to be a broken record track and repeat here what I said before.

Instead, I'll just touch up on the subject matter. I multibox on FFXIV, and I have nothing to hide. It's discriminatory to think that all multiboxers are involved in illegal/prohibited activity. And it's blind speculation to assume what multiboxers do with the game.

I don't represent nor speak for any multiboxer out there, but it's unfair to judge based on assumptions and speculations. I understand that people will have bad experiences that will lead to opinions, but the individual does not represent the whole. Everyone is their own individual, and it should go without saying: everybody's purpose and play-style will differ (multiboxer or not). It's unjustified to just lump people together.

Speaking for myself, I disagree with the sentiment that multiboxers are all doing the same thing. I don't multibox to make gil. I wouldn't pay for gear runs; I just don't see the logic in paying for something that may or may not drop. I personally don't hold any value for gil because I feel the best gear is the non-sellable, plain and simple.

In my experiences, I won't say multiboxing is a magic ticket. It's misleading to say that multiboxing puts you on easy street. It takes a lot of time and effort to find a groove. It is and always will be work. You are required to do more to reap any benefits. You don't just pull it out of the hat. It's absolutely not possible to do things at a 1x pace. No matter what, more characters demand more work and maintenance. You can't avoid the snag. You also have to have the dedication and motivation to even do anything at all. The willpower has to be there or you won't do it.

I can only wish I could always do things at the same time, but it's really not that simple. With the movement mechanics, higher level dungeons are pretty much impossible. I tip my hat to the multiboxer that can do them, but I think it's a bit of exaggeration to think that MOST of them can. Farming tomes is just not possible to an average multiboxer like myself. Even if you could, speed runs are highly unlikely. Dungeon runs are going to be significantly longer compared to a team of actual dedicated individuals. And for Coil, you can't multibox it 'nuff said.

For endgame, I end up doing more individual activities vs. the same time. To tell you the honest truth, I've felt plenty of times that I move at a snail's pace compared to someone just playing one character. The amount of concentration and effort puts me at a disadvantage at times. I've found myself stalling and worn out: the tortoise just edges out in the race (slow and steady). I spread myself thin working on multiple characters, and I'm weeks behind most of my FC because I divert and split my attention.

About all I can do as a multi-boxer is: I can level up at the same time, I could kill things non-instanced faster, I can do leves/quests at the same time, and I could craft at the same time (if I choose to). I'm sure those benefits create emotions of envy and jealousy, but there's no reason to hate. I admittedly envy the people that have time to play or can do speed runs, but that doesn't mean I would hate nor knock them because I couldn't do it myself. But with that said, anybody can take up multiboxing (and legally too). I understand there will always be circumstances (i.e. money, cpus, diligence, etc.), but the option is available. It's not an exclusive advantage when it's open to everyone.