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[Boa-Noah]

I understand the cynic in you is telling you SE wouldn't do it just because it would be a nice thing to do, but that is not a valid argument or reason for the opinion.

You're thinking about things done in XI but XI is not XIV, it's not the same team or engine either so using XI as a basis for your assumptions is wrong, not even mentioning that you haven't adressed what has already been said about duplicate gear sets and why it's a problem, further there is already mention that the quest will not reset between now and when it runs again as if you haven't completed it before it ends this time you will be able to finish it next time.

The only thing that has been confirmed is that the event will be repeating, presumably for anyone that missed this time to get the rewards.

[Alhanelem]

Why are you comparing the event quests in XI to those in XIV?

Because it's a fair comparison, as much as you try to twist it into not being one.

You're thinking about things done in XI but XI is not XIV, it's not the same team or engine either so using XI as a basis for your assumptions is wrong

XIV may not be XI, but there has been a lot of strong similarities in terms of how they going about implementing things in both games, and their thought/design processes. Plus everyone mocks and hates SE the same way and for the same reasons in both games.

I am no more wrong than anyone else here for assuming that they WON'T do it. The only arguments i've seen supporting repeating the event not happening are basically those that say something to the effect of "SE has a history of disappointing us, just look at XI."

I think you missed this bit, might want to clean your glasses.

No, I didn't miss that bit. I actually don't know of any FFXI events that were instantly repeatable. Tell me, how do you get multiple Cool New Event Item +1s? There were also many XI events that changed year after year- If you missed it one year you couldn't do it again the next.

Besides that fact, the FATEs are already repeatable and the weapons already reobtainable, so I don't see it as unreasonable or unrealistic for them to give one additional oppertunity to get the armors again.

Name me one repeatable quest in FFXIV.

Repeatable quests are coming in 2.1. Thus, they are prefectly capable of making a quest that can be repeated, and they intend to offer such a thing. This also does not say anything about whether or not they can reset a quest flag and make a concious decision to make a specific quest available to players again, as I'm certain they're capable of doing that.

No it isn't, I just proved to you why it isn't. You are the one twisting things, especially when your example uses a quest designed to be repeatable and compares it to one that is not.

Your opinion and proof are two different things.

[Shioban]

Because it's a fair comparison, as much as you try to twist it into not being one.

I think you missed this bit, might want to clean your glasses.

The event quests in XI were made to be repeatable - instantly repeatable. As soon as I completed the quest, I could do it again right away, literally the second after finishing it.

Name me one repeatable quest in FFXIV.

QUEST, not leves, not fates, not instances.

QUESTS.

I'm feeling some pangs of irony here, not to try and put a personal attack or anything, but you did say it yourself;

Sometimes the truth isn't what you want to hear, I guess. But that doesn't make it any less true.

Especially when the evidence isn't in your particular favour.

[EmSix]

Because it's a fair comparison, as much as you try to twist it into not being one.

No it isn't, I just proved to you why it isn't. You are the one twisting things, especially when your example uses a quest designed to be repeatable and compares it to one that is not.

[Boa-Noah]

XIV may not be XI, but there has been a lot of strong similarities in terms of how they going about implementing things in both games, and their thought/design processes.

No they really are not very similar at all, if they were people wouldn't constantly be moaning that XI is better than XIV, leveling is different, gearing is different, content is different, they really aren't that comparable when you look at them side to side.

Insofar there are no repeatable quests and there is no reason to assume they will change it for 1 event when changing it would leave players to gather duplicate gear that serves no purpose (something they want to avoid for obvious reasons.)

[Pavise]

I've still got no idea why if the item piece is attempted to be equipped by the opposite gender that it doesn't turn into it's equivalent, RUNESCAPE does this for crying out loud and it wouldn't be hard to code either.

[Alhanelem]

No they really are not very similar at all,

If you think there's nothing similar about their development processes, design philosophies, etc. then you're blind. Also if you think there's no similarities between the two games themselves, you're also blind.

the real crux of theissue here is we're arguing over who's opinion is the right opinion. There is no proof or hard evidence being shown that definitively shows that they will not let us run through the quests again, nor is there any proof or hard evidence that they will. Anything anyone can come up with in this thread, including what I've said, is merely theory and/or speculation until the event actually comes around again. I maintain however, that your opinion is based entirely on cynicism in relation to SE's history and actions from your point of view and nothing else. And I totally understand how various groups of people can come to be cynical towards SE but that by itself is not evidence or proof of anything.

[Shioban]

is no proof or hard evidence being shown that definitively shows that they will not let us run through the quests again, nor is there any proof or hard evidence that they will.

But that's the thing, there is.

NO quests in this game so far have been repeatable, so its perfectly safe for me to assume it will continue this way, based on how they've handled all the events and quests so far.

THAT is evidence enough to make a thread requesting an insight on what they believe should be done about it.

Why would I bother making a thread if I didn't piece together these simple facts? Or does blatant evidence not please the court?

This is not my cynical point of view, it's me thinking "This quest almost definitley wont repeat, i'd like them to implement an exchange system or a way to re-flag the quest".


Perhaps I should have put [Dev Response Please] in the title to please you~

[Boa-Noah]

If you think there's nothing similar about their development processes, design philosophies, etc. then you're blind. Also if you think there's no similarities between the two games themselves, you're also blind.

Let's look at what's different:

- The entire elemental system.
- The entire gear system.
- The basic content (notorious monsters, dynamis, classes, leveling, ease, etc.)
- The races and functions (stats.)
- Events.

What's the same? I'm seriously asking because I have no idea what's left that could be comparably the same.

Further, no, the development process and design of each games are different on a fundamental level, it's not the same group, it's not the same mentality of staff, other than being from the same company/series they are not comparable enough to use it as a basis for your own assumptions.

[EmSix]

Your opinion and proof are two different things.

Nothing that I posted is based off of my opinion.
It is not my opinion that the event quests in XI are repeatable, it is a fact. As soon as you completed the event quests in XI you could redo them instantly.
It is not my opinion that the event quests in XIV are not repeatable, it is a fact.
Maybe you should grab a dictionary and learn what an opinion is.