Gender Locked Items (Lightning Edition)

[Shioban]

Unessecarily long winded babble.

My only problem so far with this thread is the fact that you insist on hovering around the 'repetable' quest factor, when none exist.
How can I sit on my hands and smile with my skirt blowing in the wind waiting for the quest to pop come February when 'Oh wait it's not there' what a shocker!

then you could just as easily argue that most of the FFXI events weren't quests either, because they weren't. Many of them did not appear in the quest log. BUt go ahead, keep arguing over semantics and not the actual topic of the godforsaken thread.

BOTH GAMES HAVE BOTH REPEATABLE AND NON REPEATABLE COMPONENTS TO EVENTS. Call them "quests," Call them "Minigames", call them undefinied pixlized pieces of crap, i don't care. it isn't relevant to the discussion.

The developers haven't responded to this one yet, so no i'm not satisfied. They responded to a seperate semi-related issue however on the BETA forums and the Official ones.

You were the one who brought up the FFXI comparison did you not? Of course we're going to argue semantics if you're going to compare the two, people are going to call bluff.

It's a normal quest, and so far all the normal quests in game have no option to repeat them and or automatically re-flag.

Yes there are repeatable components to this game, FATES, Instances, Lalafell Extortion. Those aren't applicable.
The Lightning Event comprised of quests, which I have completed and have no option to currently repeat, so this presents a problem.



This isn't an opinion, this is fact. There are no repeatable 'normal' quests in ARR currently.

☆Homework for tomorrow! ☆

Find one quest (In your Journal!) that's a repeatable quest, either manually or automatically! I'm not talking about FFXI, WoW or Doki Doki Universe here let's keep on track, its a "QUEST" in FFXIV:ARR

One similar to this unrepeatable and complete one here in my journal!

Happy hunting!

[Zell1226]

It seems logical that they won't re-open the quest even if you change gender, because the quest already is flagged that you have completed it. When they re-open it again, it'll just be another chance for players who missed out the first time.

[Pavise]

I've still got no idea why if the item piece is attempted to be equipped by the opposite gender that it doesn't turn into it's equivalent, RUNESCAPE does this for crying out loud and it wouldn't be hard to code either.

[Alhanelem]

No they really are not very similar at all,

If you think there's nothing similar about their development processes, design philosophies, etc. then you're blind. Also if you think there's no similarities between the two games themselves, you're also blind.

the real crux of theissue here is we're arguing over who's opinion is the right opinion. There is no proof or hard evidence being shown that definitively shows that they will not let us run through the quests again, nor is there any proof or hard evidence that they will. Anything anyone can come up with in this thread, including what I've said, is merely theory and/or speculation until the event actually comes around again. I maintain however, that your opinion is based entirely on cynicism in relation to SE's history and actions from your point of view and nothing else. And I totally understand how various groups of people can come to be cynical towards SE but that by itself is not evidence or proof of anything.

[Shioban]

is no proof or hard evidence being shown that definitively shows that they will not let us run through the quests again, nor is there any proof or hard evidence that they will.

But that's the thing, there is.

NO quests in this game so far have been repeatable, so its perfectly safe for me to assume it will continue this way, based on how they've handled all the events and quests so far.

THAT is evidence enough to make a thread requesting an insight on what they believe should be done about it.

Why would I bother making a thread if I didn't piece together these simple facts? Or does blatant evidence not please the court?

This is not my cynical point of view, it's me thinking "This quest almost definitley wont repeat, i'd like them to implement an exchange system or a way to re-flag the quest".


Perhaps I should have put [Dev Response Please] in the title to please you~

[Boa-Noah]

If you think there's nothing similar about their development processes, design philosophies, etc. then you're blind. Also if you think there's no similarities between the two games themselves, you're also blind.

Let's look at what's different:

- The entire elemental system.
- The entire gear system.
- The basic content (notorious monsters, dynamis, classes, leveling, ease, etc.)
- The races and functions (stats.)
- Events.

What's the same? I'm seriously asking because I have no idea what's left that could be comparably the same.

Further, no, the development process and design of each games are different on a fundamental level, it's not the same group, it's not the same mentality of staff, other than being from the same company/series they are not comparable enough to use it as a basis for your own assumptions.

[Alhanelem]

It is not my opinion that the event quests in XI are repeatable, it is a fact.

That's not a fact, they have introduced many one time events. I don't give a crap how many times you can do them during the single event, but the point is they can still be missed and not repeated again, unlike other events that always come back. Regardless, you aren't proving anything that has anything to do with the issue at hand, so its a non sequitur as your conclusion about the actual topic has nothing to do with whether or not you can participate in the same FFXI event mroe than once.

It is not my opinion that the event quests in XIV are not repeatable, it is a fact.

That's not a fact because the summer event was repeatable, and the FATE/weapons part of the Lightning event is repeatable.

I'm not calling these things opinions. What IS an opinion is whether or not we'll be able to repeat the event after this event concludes and is later introduced a second time. your conclusion that we won't is does not logically follow from any reasonable set of premises.

I'm amazed that you gathered 2 post likes from something I'm not disputing. I guess that's 2 more people who have no idea what this thread is actually about.

Let's look at what's different:

- The entire elemental system.
- The entire gear system.
- The basic content (notorious monsters, dynamis, classes, leveling, ease, etc.)
- The races and functions (stats.)
- Events.

-FFXIV uses the same system of elements except that light and dark do not directly exist
-FFXI uses virtually the same exact gear system. You have various different equipment in various different slots with various different stats that all have a level requirement and a set of jobs that can equip them. Both games are now using a mostly vertical item progression with item levels.
-The basic content is also highly similar. Both games have NMs (your opinion of FATE NMs is irrelevant, they are NMs, many of them are even the SAME NMs as in XI. FFXIV reuses many monsters that existed in XI, Dynamis is a single content and does not in any way represent content in XI in general, leveling is actually very similar in both games in XI's state for the last several years
-XIV shares some events in common with XI (e.g. Starlight Celebration) and both games have both repeatable and non-repeatable event elements.

[EmSix]

That's not a fact, they have introduced many one time events. I don't give a crap how many times you can do them during the single event, but the point is they can still be missed and not repeated again, unlike other events that always come back. Regardless, you aren't proving anything that has anything to do with the issue at hand, so its a non sequitur as your conclusion about the actual topic has nothing to do with whether or not you can participate in the same FFXI event mroe than once.

Yes, it is, the quests themselves in XI have and always were repeatable, even if they were one time, this is contrary to XIV's event quests where you cannot repeat them under any circumstances.

That's not a fact because the summer event was repeatable, and the FATE/weapons part of the Lightning event is repeatable.

The summer event was not a quest. Trading some ash to an NPC is not a quest. Trading Philosophy to Auriana is not a quest, trading Odin Mantles to Aelina is not a quest. These are vendors.
The Summer event was a vendor that used Ash as it's currency, it was not a quest. The weapon vendor is of the same vein, it is not a quest, therefore it is "repeatable".

How Ironic that you posted:

I'm amazed that you gathered 2 post likes from something I'm not disputing. I guess that's 2 more people who have no idea what this thread is actually about.

Right after saying this:

What IS an opinion is whether or not we'll be able to repeat the event after this event concludes and is later introduced a second time. your conclusion that we won't is does not logically follow from any reasonable set of premises.

Which is exactly what the OP (who you seem to be attacking) has been wanting, since the very start of this thread. Numerous times has he said he only wants an answer as to if/how they'll be obtainable in the future. Why you insist in saying "Oh, it's okay they will" when we've no evidence either way is astounding. All that is being asked is proof.

[Boa-Noah]

That's not a fact because the summer event was repeatable, and the FATE/weapons part of the Lightning event is repeatable.

You are mistaken, the quest is not repeatable, your ability to farm up 'cash' item is and that's the problem, the summer event was not a quest with gear, it was a temporary store, the weapons are likewise a temporary store since no part of the quest gives you a weapon, could you repeat the halloween event quest? I couldn't, could you? If not that's your proof right there, quests are not repeatable, fates and the event itself might be but the quests themselves, insofar, are not repeatable and thus the thread has a legitimate concern.

[Shioban]

LOL OF COURSE THEY WILL MAKE IT REPEATABLE, YOU ARE ALL SO SILLY

O'really?

Checkmate...



This came up on the launcher today, so its even more irritating now that there's literally no way to get it now.
It can't be GM'd, repeated or exchanged.