Gender Locked Items (Lightning Edition)

[EmSix]

I cannot believe the stuff that people complain about...are you kidding me? This gear cannot go into the armiore and you want to have two sets...I don't think you are thinking this through completely. Be happy with the one you got and go on with life...if you wanted the other gender then you should have made that gender character to start with.

Way to miss the point entirely.
It's about futureproofing - What if I change my gender in the future? After February (if they let you repeat the quests) you'll never be able to obtain them ever again.

[Alhanelem]

Hate gender-locked things. Anti would look adorable in the coat and pants.

It's a simple fact of life that the different genders have different physical and other characteristics. Why not celebrate those differences instead of complaining about them? *This is no way intended to be sexist, merely a simple bilogical fact that men have things that women don't and women have things that men don't.

They even stated that 'quests cannot be completed when the event has ended', meaning if you don't finish it now, you'd have to wait until February to complete it.


The gear quest is a one time thing, technically you can wait and do the gear quest until then but it will NOT repeat it.


Square Enix won't repeat a quest that drops event gear.

1) this hasn't happened before
2) the fact that the quests can't be compelted when the event is not in session is obvious and has nothing to do with the issue. You have no proof or evidecne that the quests can not be played again, or that the quests aren't literally seperate for male and female characters, or that they can't simply reset the quest flags for the next time the event happens. You are just making an assertion with no evidence.
3)How do you know they won't? Even in cases where it was true in XI, if the quest could not be repeated, they set up an NPC that sold the previous event rewards. But some event quests came back year after year. So if you're trying to suggest to me that there is a precedent for your assetion that they WON'T do it, you're wrong.

[Shioban]

1) this hasn't happened before
2) the fact that the quests can't be compelted when the event is not in session is obvious and has nothing to do with the issue. You have no proof or evidecne that the quests can not be played again

You're right, I can't prove it, but do you think that a quest you've already completed would re-appear again?

If you finish and get your outfit at the end of it, do you really think Square Enix will set the quest to repeat?

I don't, hence my reason for this entire thread.

IF, you're right and they do i'd be happy, but the chances are so slim that i'd rather they give some sort of insight into it.

[Shioban]

or that they can't simply reset the quest flags for the next time the event happens. You are just making an assertion with no evidence.

You're right, I can't prove it, but do you think that a quest you've already completed would re-appear again?

If you finish and get your outfit at the end of it, do you really think Square Enix will set the quest to repeat?

I don't, hence my reason for this entire thread.

IF, you're right and they do i'd be happy, but the chances are so slim that i'd rather they give some sort of insight into it.

One thing I just proved actually was that if you do the first quest as a male character, then use your Phantasia the quest does NOT reflag.
So changing genders doesnt re-flag it I highly doubt February will.

[EmSix]

One thing I just proved actually was that if you do the first quest as a male character, then use your Phantasia the quest does NOT reflag.
So changing genders doesnt re-flag it I highly doubt February will.

Can confirm this, I tried it as well with an alt.
It's pretty silly to just not have a method of getting both - Like the previous events have.

[Alhanelem]

One thing I just proved actually was that if you do the first quest as a male character, then use your Phantasia the quest does NOT reflag.
So changing genders doesnt re-flag it I highly doubt February will.

Correlation without causation. Just because swapping genders didn't reset the quest doesn't mean or imply that SE won't proactively reset the quests for the re-running of the event. The only thing it DOES mean is that the quests are not seperate by gender and/or clearing one locks out the other.

Since you did a gender swap though, I would like to know if you did it in the middle of the quest chain, and if so, did the subsequent quests yet to be completed end up giving the original gender items or the new ones?

[Shioban]

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Of course I can't be 100% sure, but i'm pretty confident that Square Enix won't re-flag the quest again later for people to obtain a second set of lighting/snow gear, it wouldn't make any logical sense. I was already aware that the quests weren't separated by gender I just sought out to make 100% sure.

The process was;

1 - Make male character in Limsa
2 - Level to 12, obtain quest.
3 - Complete Fate, return complete quest, recieve male gloves.
4 - Log out, use Phantasia to become female, return to see if the quest has been re-flagged.
5 - Unsuccessful.
6 - Subsequent quests obviously offered the female gear.

All the quest does is a simple Boolean check once clicked;

if; gender is (male) quest_reward_set_1 (item no)
otherwise; gender is (female) quest_reward_set_2 (item no)


And more recently, using a Phial of Fantasia on my legacy character yielded the same result, even after deleting the Lightning gear.

So i'm pretty sure that square enix aren't going to reflag quest quest seeing as so far in ARR they haven't re-flagged a single one, doing so would encounter the same problem with the AF quest for legacy players where-in they would obtain two gears of gear, for the few people that have encountered the issue i'm having it wouldn't be worth resetting for everyone.


The only reason I have this thread up is to find out the following;

Are we going to be able to do the quest again in February?
If not;
Are we going to be able to exchange our items for another gender?

[EvokerKeii]

Foresight is something Squeenix has repeatedly demonstrated they lack. Don't count on it.

[Alhanelem]

Of course I can't be 100% sure, but i'm pretty confident that Square Enix won't re-flag the quest again later for people to obtain a second set of lighting/snow gear, it wouldn't make any logical sense.

How does it not make logical sense? If they run the event again, you get to play it again. This was true for many event quests throughout FFXI's history. You can't say with such confidence it won't happen because it HAS happened in the past.

There isn't even the slightest bit of harm in doing it either- the worst thing that can happen is you don't get a reward for doing it the second time.

I guarantee you that next summer you'll be able to get more wet bombard ash and buy more fireworks n stuff with it. In the cases in XI where the event changed from the previous version, the items from the previous version were made avialable for purchase with gil. I understand the cynic in you is telling you SE wouldn't do it just because it would be a nice thing to do, but that is not a valid argument or reason for the opinion.

[Shioban]

I understand the cynic in you is telling you SE wouldn't do it just because it would be a nice thing to do, but that is not a valid argument or reason for the opinion.

The EVENT runs again. So for those that miss the event have the change to participate again.

It will be the exact same event that will open itself again.

Think of it as them turning Costa Del Sol off for an afternoon and turning it back on again, will your progress rest on all the quest you did there? No.


Your comparison to the summer-gear isn't applicable it was purchased via a vendor there was no quest, this is a quest which from the evidence the game has provided thus far will not be re-flagged.

It IS a valid argument, the ""inner-cynic"" in me would rather express my feeling on the matter than being the optimist going "OH BOY LETS WAIT TILL FEBRUARY, ALHANELEME SAID THE QUEST WILL REFLAG" when its too late to do something about it.

I would rather have an explanation or an insight into this, what portion of this is hard for you to understand?