Is this what it boils down to?

[XainTheGreat]

yeah you might as well just quit then. PvP doesnt belong in MMO's and it definately doesnt belong in Final Fantasy. All it does is bring imbalance issues and theres always going to be 1 job that everyone cries about, then it gets nerfed and that job cries, then another one is going to be the job that everyone cries about. Its just a vicious cycle of imbalance and inperfections and even if it were completely 100 percent balanced, PVP in MMO's relies so much on gear, that skill doesnt matter, but gear does, and again is another reason why PvP just doesnt work in MMO's. You want good PvP? go play a FPS where everyone is equal and it literally comes down to skill and precision.

[Reiterpallasch]

PvP doesnt belong in MMO's

Except that it does. Name for us some MMOs that don't have it. There aren't many, so it shouldn't be hard to find out.

it definately doesnt belong in Final Fantasy.

It was in XI, and it will be in this one.

All it does is bring imbalance issues

Nope. Everything is going to work differently in pvp, so they can tweak it specifically for that without affecting pvp.

[Sayura_]

yeah you might as well just quit then. PvP doesnt belong in MMO's and it definately doesnt belong in Final Fantasy. All it does is bring imbalance issues and theres always going to be 1 job that everyone cries about, then it gets nerfed and that job cries, then another one is going to be the job that everyone cries about. Its just a vicious cycle of imbalance and inperfections and even if it were completely 100 percent balanced, PVP in MMO's relies so much on gear, that skill doesnt matter, but gear does, and again is another reason why PvP just doesnt work in MMO's. You want good PvP? go play a FPS where everyone is equal and it literally comes down to skill and precision.

Lost brain cells reading this.