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    I don't have an issue because I am an IT Guru/ IT Generalist Jack of all trades and my PC is a Beast, and my ping to the datacenter is 30-40 ms. I don't lag at all and have about 2500$ in my gaming PC.

    There are so many variables involved, that explaining why some people have issues and some don't is difficult. It could be PS3 + Latency to server, it could be the PC is old and slow and not up to spec to overcome the issue.

    Bottom line though it's latency to the server and user reflexes. Some people are just faster than others and move out of it super quick often times before it's even visble.

    SE is so hard core against preventing hacks that they end up hurting their game design more than their helping it. A full server Side MMO is just a bad Idea for a global targetted game unless your going to have data centers all over the place geographically.

    Until Quantum Entanglement is harnessed for Data Teleportation and used to create a <5ms latency global world wide internet, it's a bad idea.

    IMO user experience should always come first before thinking about ways to prevent hackers. I imagine their whole mindset when they make a game like this is "How can we design the fight mechanics so hackers can't cheat by hacking how much dmg they did, where their xyz was, whether they were in an aoe, etc etc etc" instead of going "How will this perform for users, will latency be an issue in dodging these mechanics" etc.

    Personally I'd rather have a game full of cheaters I can play, than a game that's full of them anyways that I can't play.

    Hackers will always find a way to hack a game, it's moore's law. No matter how secure you make something, they will find a way. Just give up on it. Secure the obvious things like player accounts, assets, mining nodes, crafting etc and make the fights respond fluidly.
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    Last edited by Ryios; 11-16-2013 at 08:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    I don't have an issue because I am an IT Guru/ IT Generalist Jack of all trades and my PC is a Beast, and my ping to the datacenter is 30-40 ms. I don't lag at all and have about 2500$ in my gaming PC.
    Well, aren't you precious.

    Unless that was sarcasm, in which case let me inform you - it doesn't work in text form.
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    Having an opinion does not make you right or wrong, it simply means you have an opinion. Don't get irritated when people don't agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baneus View Post
    Well, aren't you precious.

    Unless that was sarcasm, in which case let me inform you - it doesn't work in text form.
    I posted and then immediately edited my post to add more, sorry, I wasn't finished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    I posted and then immediately edited my post to add more, sorry, I wasn't finished.
    I see, then I apologise.

    I'm pretty much the same as you with a single difference, my connection is on the other side of the planet from the servers and goes from here to Australia, to the US and then to the servers. 200ms is the absolute best latency I ever see, which is actually amazing considering the shoddy cross country infrastructure of the aforementioned nations.
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    Having an opinion does not make you right or wrong, it simply means you have an opinion. Don't get irritated when people don't agree.

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    I think the best fix for the problem would be to extend the cast time of the red zone by 1 or 2 secs.
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    How come I don't have any problems dodging Eruptions and Plumes (Ifrit's), even when done in the last instant, but still get hit sometimes by a silly line attack like Desolation or slow-as-molasses the Ram's Keeper?

    When I get hit by Plume, I can't even see my character, I'm inside the flames (sometimes I even think I'll get hit but don't, because I got used to dying while out of things). Then comes silly Landslide and sends me off the arena when I'm out of the line before the cast ends (I see Titan turning, and I get ready to run if it comes at my direction, so it's not a "last instant move")...

    I think there's more to that than a mere delay. It seems like some area attacks/red circles are horribly programmed. Either that or my inner white knight refuses to acknowledge that this is never going away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    Personally I'd rather have a game full of cheaters I can play, than a game that's full of them anyways that I can't play.

    agreeeeed.
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