Whats allowed for multiboxing if Dev. could please answer/shed light on

[DarkStaoneDragon]

I know multiboxing in it's self isn't illegal as long as it doesn't use 3rd party programs. My Wife and I play FFXIV together I play on PS3 she plays on 1 PS3 and 1 PC accounts but sometimes we'd like to do low lvl dungeons together and she likes to multibox and multi-task, basically she has 1 PS3 account and 1 PC account and she'd like to get a 3rd account all on separate SE accounts so her setup is 1 PS3 1 PC, if a Dev/Mod could clarify it'd be, 1 PS3 2 PC's and there's been other's asking the same thing, She has done this on other MMO's FFXI included, most people think of it as "Grey area". she uses the /follow and /ac "Skill/Spell" <tt> macro. She don't want to bust her rear end on her characters just for SE to change ToS so multiboxing isn't allowed.

[SchalaZeal]

I think it's a form of cheating that facilitates botting and/or abusing rewards for events and other things (get 4 of one thing while others only get 1, because they don't have 4 chars at once). Including just plain farming.

[DarkStaoneDragon]

I think it's a form of cheating that facilitates botting and/or abusing rewards for events and other things (get 4 of one thing while others only get 1, because they don't have 4 chars at once). Including just plain farming.

How is it getting 4 things at once? your still having to gear up each character just as anyone else thats playing solo, and I have yet to see everyone in our parties to get an item per kill, Hell her characters are considered gimped gear wise.

[SchalaZeal]

How is it getting 4 things at once? your still having to gear up each character just as anyone else thats playing solo, and I have yet to see everyone in our parties to get an item per kill, Hell her characters are considered gimped gear wise.

How about multi-boxing for crafting? Macro your craft and press on #1, press on #2, press on #3, press on #4...make 4x the profit in 1x the time...

That kind of abuse.

In Atlantica Online, people openly abused special instances called individual dungeons (from 1 to 3 players allowed). They need a key and stay open for a set duration, under which they have to be completed to get the bonus reward. Everyone in the instance gets the bonus reward. You go solo, you get 1, you go with 3 total, each gets 1. And those instances didn't level sync you, so you could overgear most of them, by far - and thus solo them. Then bring your 2 multibox, and get triple reward. Thus making the honest solo-boxer get 1/3 of the reward.

How did it affect the solo-boxer? Well, the best rewards were sellable (new mercenaries sometimes), for billions. So it gave a much higher supply, reduced the price faster and also caused inflation vs that player because every multiboxer would make more money/time.

Legal, perhaps. Cheating, definitely.

For dungeons, well there's tomes. She gets 300 philosophy tomes per run, you and I get 100 tomes. How is that fair?

[DSN]

Legal, perhaps. Cheating, definitely.

So next you'll tell me someone who plays for 24 hrs straight is cheating because that's an obvious advantage over others who can just play a few hours here and there. Just because someone can do something you cannot does not mean its cheating.

[SchalaZeal]

So next you'll tell me someone who plays for 24 hrs straight is cheating because that's an obvious advantage over others who can just play a few hours here and there. Just because someone can do something you cannot does not mean its cheating.

Nah, its not. If you can manage to not sleep and not eat and stay alive. Go for broke.

It's when you play 4 accounts for 6 hours each and accomplish the work of 24 hours, while me who plays 6 hours can't do that. Unless I also cheat.

ITT having multiple accounts is now cheating

I'd say if its you playing them all at the same time, yes. If it's other household members, no. Get 25 accounts and play them separately for all I care. Not at once.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

How about multi-boxing for crafting? Macro your craft and press on #1, press on #2, press on #3, press on #4...make 4x the profit in 1x the time...

Legal, perhaps. Cheating, definitely.

For dungeons, well there's tomes. She gets 300 philosophy tomes per run, you and I get 100 tomes. How is that fair?

no...... it is pretty much the same as if someone had 3-4 characters, except they are paying a lot more and playing them at the same time. That is not cheating, in fact they are working just as hard, if not harder to earn all that for all 4 characters being multiboxed.

Multiboxing is not cheating, and it is not against the ToS, although I do find it a bit much and dont care to do it myself. I know a friend at work who has 16 EQII accounts, and multiboxes some of them all the time.


my god are people getting this picking and whinny that they have to call people who play more then one account at the same time cheaters? Really!

[Matsume]

How about multi-boxing for crafting? Macro your craft and press on #1, press on #2, press on #3, press on #4...make 4x the profit in 1x the time...

For dungeons, well there's tomes. She gets 300 philosophy tomes per run, you and I get 100 tomes. How is that fair?

This is not cheating. Multiboxing is not against the Terms of Service. If SE did not want a single person to own multiple accounts they simply would have locked each email or credit card to a single account rather than allow users to pay for multiple accounts under one credit card.

So long as the player is not playing the game in an unattended manner then there are no rules being broken. Being able to craft 4 items on 4 accounts is not abusive. Neither would receiving 100 myth tomes per character be unfair.You say it is unfair as if she could get 300 tomes of philosophy and pool them to one character to buy loot. At best she can spend them on two star philo mats and sell them for 50K a piece. Who the hell cares? And at what cost? Super slow AK/WP runs?

In any case, the guy is asking if it's okay for her wife to multibox so that they can 2 man (four box) lower level dungeons, like brayfloxes longstrop, since many of these are very slow to queue in duty finder and hardly anyone runs them. He isn't trying to figure out a way to exploit philo tomes as you imply.

[DSN]

For dungeons, well there's tomes. She gets 300 philosophy tomes per run, you and I get 100 tomes. How is that fair?

How are they getting 300 tomes, they are getting 100 tomes x3. You cant buy a ring with 4 characters in a single run of AK? You seem to think magically these characters merge when done, they do not, they are still X seperate characters. I cannot get 900 myth in a week with 3 characters and get +1 relic, you cannot trade or move the tomes around.

[Reiterpallasch]

cheating