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    Non OP Warrior fixes

    My Warrior Fix: after playing warrior through main story and doing some end game content I have come up with what I think would be good non OP changes. Wanted you feedback:

    1. Under defiance Every weaponskill that does not consume stacks should grant a stack of wrath. Except for heavy swing.

    2. Steel Cyclone should keep its Current potentcy and add the effect; when used and consumes 5 wrath stacks it allow you to absorb all incoming damage for 5 seconds as healing received.

    3. Bloodbaths healing percentage should be raised to 40% or 50% to make it viable for end game content

    4. Increase Defiance HP buff by 5%

    5. Defiance has a static healing received buff. Instead of wrath building healing buff and atk crits, have it buff atk crit still and build crit heal chance or raise parry chance per stack.

    6. Add a slow or heavy to an ability such as fracture or maim.

    7. Decrease Defiances dmg reduction by 5%


    Just what I've seen so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpinOff View Post
    2. Steel Cyclone should keep its Current potentcy and add the effect; when used and consumes 5 wrath stacks it allow you to absorb all incoming damage for 5 seconds as healing received.
    This is a NON-OP option? LMAO

    So you want half a hallowed ground every time you 5 wrath steel cyclone? Heck, its better than half a hallowed as you end the 5s at full HP without any attention from healers, lol. This will completely trivialize any encounter with predictable damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoomie View Post
    This is a NON-OP option? LMAO

    So you want half a hallowed ground every time you 5 wrath steel cyclone? Heck, its better than half a hallowed as you end the 5s at full HP without any attention from healers, lol. This will completely trivialize any encounter with predictable damage.
    In short, he wants WARs to have drastically increased survivability whilst keeping or even increasing their DPS potential, high Max HP.

    And he calls this non-OP lol
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    The change to steel cyclone would also add a cooldown, I thought would have been implied. My mistake. Would you agree a 3 min cooldown to be fair for the change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpinOff View Post
    The change to steel cyclone would also add a cooldown, I thought would have been implied. My mistake. Would you agree a 3 min cooldown to be fair for the change?
    Even a 3 min CD is still extremely powerful. Lets be clear, this is 5s seconds of invincibility every 3 minutes. While I do agree that Warrior needs some changes I don't think a 3 min CD god mode is the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoomie View Post
    Even a 3 min CD is still extremely powerful. Lets be clear, this is 5s seconds of invincibility every 3 minutes. While I do agree that Warrior needs some changes I don't think a 3 min CD god mode is the answer.
    Hollowed ground is a 10 second god mode and thats ok? sure his change shouldnt ABSORB the damage, but 5 seconds of invincibility every once in a while would not be op. the problem would be putting a very long cooldown on an AE move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    Hollowed ground is a 10 second god mode and thats ok? sure his change shouldnt ABSORB the damage, but 5 seconds of invincibility every once in a while would not be op. the problem would be putting a very long cooldown on an AE move.
    5s of invincibility is fine. 5s of invincibility every THREE MINUTES, as the OP suggested, is not. That's multiple uses per boss encounter... you could use it a couple times on turn 1, 3-4 times on turn 2, twice on turn 4...

    I never said that 5s of invincibility is bad. I simply stated that 5s of invincibility on top of hp absord AND a 3min CD is silly. This has nothing to do with hallowed or the duration of the suggested skill.
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    Last edited by Zoomie; 11-16-2013 at 04:58 AM.

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    I see your point. I concur that would be too much. I was just trying to think of a way to make Steel Cyclone more viable by adding some type of effect that is slightly different than what WAR currently has.
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    What if Steel Cyclone functioned like an AoE inner beast? Heal self for total damage done. Would make for some interesting AoE tankage, which is what WAR seems to be designed for anyway. It also makes up for the lack of mitigation that makes PLD tanking stuff like WP speed runs and other aoe groups with rampart/sentinel/etc. a breeze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkR171 View Post
    What if Steel Cyclone functioned like an AoE inner beast? Heal self for total damage done. Would make for some interesting AoE tankage, which is what WAR seems to be designed for anyway. It also makes up for the lack of mitigation that makes PLD tanking stuff like WP speed runs and other aoe groups with rampart/sentinel/etc. a breeze.
    Change to Steel Cyclone to this:

    80 Potency in an AoE. (Ignores Defiance 25% damage penalty)
    Consumes 1 stack of Wrath. Heals you for 125% of the damage dealt.

    These changes would keep it in line with Inner Beast being better for Single Target, but in an AoE scenario, this will heal you just about the same, but over a longer duration, and deal out nearly the same potency of damage over a longer time.
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