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    Player
    Sixmp's Avatar
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    Grusum Poostrider
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    Fisher Lv 50
    The world lacks danger.
    The jobs/classes lack interesting features and interactions with other job/classes.
    While i agree nobody wants to spend 30 minutes travelling from A to B, what is wrong with 5-10 minutes on chocobo? With all the teleporting in this game it makes me wonder why chocobos are even part of the lore in the first place.
    There is a major lack of quests even for leveling your first job/class never mind levelling every job/class in the game so far.
    The world is basically void of actual content compared to any other MMO i have ever played in it's starting months.

    Endgame is lacking from what i have read also but i have not gotten there yet and it seems to be a time sink that people apparently dislike.
    Fates are boring due to the fact that they are totally hammered with people that everything just dies.
    Levequests are ok but when you have to do them over and over just to level it becomes more boring than anything i ever did in FFXI or WoW.

    The dungeons are boring. Yet we are required to repeat them over and over to level.

    These are some of the complaints i have seen on the forums over the past few weeks, now when someone mentions anything from another game that would add something to the game everyone goes nuts claiming it isn't needed or nobody has time for that.
    I ask you this. Why do you play a game? Is it something you do for fun? To pass the time? If so why does it matter if it takes 2 months to hit max level? I can understand if it is boring repeated content like fates or spamming dungeons but what if it took 2 months and it was just 100s of quests mixed with other content that you didn't repeat once?

    Would you want to race to max level then or would you be enjoying the journey?
    Most people would agree that time sinks are just filler and the less of them we have the better but if something took time and it had legit content that wasn't just kill 10,000 rabbits and you get X weapon, wouldn't you enjoy it? If so why do we put up with and defend low quality gaming?

    Why argue amongst ourselves and against ideas from other games that work well, after all it adds choices, you might not want to take part in it yourself but it could take some people away from fates for instance, making them more enjoyable.
    While we are all arguing over silly points and taking each other too literally trying to defend our own idealistic idea of what makes an MMO, devs continue to feed us tripe.

    What we all should be asking for are more missions, more content that doesn't count as a mind numbing time sink, i know that MMO's do need some time sinks to make content last but it shouldn't be OTT like the 10,000 rabbit or running an instance 300 times.
    The more we fight amongst ourselves the less impact we have on the game.

    So instead of just moaning and fighting why not take ideas from each other and make them work. Talk them through so most of us are happy with the outcome and then we can present it to SE and they might take it on board.
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    Duke Burden
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    Also, i'd like to add that, while this may sound cheesy, times are definitely changing. People now a days are so distracted by many different outlets that our attention span has gone way down. While many of us, myself included, hardcore games miss the games we used to play, that formula doesn't work anymore. People want things to be done faster so they can move on to the next thing. It's like someone said a few pages back; if FFXI was released today, it would flop. People just don't have that kind of time, dedication, patience for a beast that was FFXI.
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    Arcanist Lv 17
    Nostalgia is a helluva drug.
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    Shio Ban
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Gang View Post
    Nostalgia is a helluva drug.
    My rose-tinted glasses are so heavy it hurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    My rose-tinted glasses are so heavy it hurts.
    What does this mean? "Rose-tinted glasses"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeBurden View Post
    What does this mean? "Rose-tinted glasses"?
    In this case.
    "This game/Yoshi/Dev's can do no wrong." And everything is perfect in the game.
    Not a single thing in this game broken. Nothing at all.
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeBurden View Post
    What does this mean? "Rose-tinted glasses"?
    It means the poster does not want to engage with the topic in any meaningful way and would rather dismiss another's views as being biased without paying them the modicum of respect required to actually consider if they have a point.

    See also: nostalgia, first love syndrome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    It means the poster does not want to engage with the topic in any meaningful way and would rather dismiss another's views as being biased without paying them the modicum of respect required to actually consider if they have a point.

    See also: nostalgia, first love syndrome.
    Just because someone dismisses someone else's views as bias, doesn't mean they aren't.
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    Player Shioban's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeBurden View Post
    What does this mean? "Rose-tinted glasses"?
    It's an (idiomatic) term, which can mean you have a different (sometimes nostalgic) view on things.

    Wearing your 'rose-tinted-glasses' you see the world differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    face the facts.
    FFXIV has more subscribers than FFXI ever had and there's still the PS4 version coming.

    FFXIV is obviously more popular than FFXI for a reason.
    i played FFXI for 6 years but i can live with it and enjoy ARR.
    How many times did FFXI fail? Oh that's right none. How many times did FFXIV fail? Once that's why were playing a "REMAKE".
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