The tanking forum is really an enjoyable place here.
You make good points, but with overhealing giving lots of Hate, it really puts some pressure on other classes..which I think is good. Everyone needs to be over the bar or else it all fails. If the tank taking too much damage, the healer will have to heal more, and take aggro, while you're trying to get the healer in the clear the DPS start to pull. Binary mechanics are never great for a game, and tank and spanks can be a snooze fest sometimes. I think the system they have now does a pretty good job at what it's trying to do
EDIT: Whoops, this was in reply to Maelwys's post
Short answer, Yes. I think AK is where you finally run into geared people(well geared people do WP now) I think the learning curve in AK is more of learning others jobs/what to expect from them enmity wise. IMO it's where you will tune yourself skill/skills wise and learn the advantages/disadvantages to other jobs.
@ Grogin
For Caduceus though not so much so for tank the Guildhest that helps would be Ward up (lvl 40)
More than a Feeler well basically is a reverse of Garuda Satin Feather.
Solemn Trinity (lvl 40) is sort of a minor simulation of Turn 4 Coil ST training.
I would say that Aurum Vale is a better training place than Amdapor Keep even if you get higher level gear that place can still get you killed whereas you can overpower AK with gears. As for Garuda she trains your tank positioning and awareness which will sorta come in handy in Turn 4 as OT. Whereas Titan trains you your natural instinct. Do alot of Titan and you just know when he is about to do Rock Buster and Mountain Buster to be ready or even clip a 3 seconds blind in it. Such internal timer will be good when you MT Turn 4 and MT/ST Turn 5 cause you need to expect the Skill+Melee of the Juggernauts and impending Death Sentence to selfcast Stoneskin right after a melee hit and before the Death Sentence cast.
Stone vigil. This is where changed to vit gear, used Defiance properly and learnt about cc.
I used my GC green sword clear through Titan, because all primals hated me -- for well over 50 runs, frankly I lost track (though I did manage to get greed weapons for most other jobs). So for me, I learned tanking twice. In leveling dungeons I learned the basics and then again in WP/AK runs with +1 DPS I learned how to really hold aggro. Ha, and now with my relic sword aggro almost seems too easy. Almost.
Last edited by Zakalwe; 11-15-2013 at 10:43 PM.
I'd say probably AV, it taught me paying close attention to mechanics along with keeping hate and using a mark macro. Every other dungeon I could facetank through and rely on my healers. I think DD was the first place I really had to change targets mid combo to keep aggro. Had to relearn a bit with AK/WP, but now I can pretty much look at the healer's gear and guess just how many overpowers/flashes to use before settling into combo splitting so the DPS can tear the mobs to bits.
Yea I had my first wake up call in qarn. Then AK, really once you master AK you just bettered yourself as a tank then solo tanking ifrit is fun to learn to pay attention to boss rotations ifrits fun to solo tank
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