People Preparing for the Worse of 1.18? hmmm

[Starlord]

Well this doesn't Surprise me at all, in fact thats all I been hearing ever since the Forums Launched.

It's getting kinda pathetic to be honest with you..

80% of the player base on the Forums have nothing really constructive, and when you do 2 pages later it gets gunned down by trolls and the Idea is basically trash =(.

Why cant we as a whole join together have creative discussions and not troll , so that SE Can feel good about themselves.

I know if I was a SE employee and I been seeing all this crap people throw out here I wouldn't want to bother either making the game great, because there is no motivation behind it.

*Devs if you see this you may lock it, I just had to vent my feelings to the pLayer-base thats all*

[TonyMontana]

Well this doesn't Surprise me at all, in fact thats all I been hearing ever since the Forums Launched.

It's getting kinda pathetic to be honest with you..

80% of the player base on the Forums have nothing really constructive, and when you do 2 pages later it gets gunned down by trolls and the Idea is basically trash =(.

Why cant we as a whole join together have creative discussions and not troll , so that SE Can feel good about themselves.I know if I was a SE employee and I been seeing all this crap people throw out here I wouldn't want to bother either making the game great, because there is no motivation behind it.

*Devs if you see this you may lock it, I just had to vent my feelings to the pLayer-base thats all*

Lets hope they are getting paychecks to make them feel good about themselves.

[Gramul]

I understand how you feel Starlord.
Many people feel they're just protecting themselves from disappointment. But that won't work. I've been down that road before and all it does is create distress and depression with the people working for me and in the end, the whole project fell apart.

You need to encourage good behavior, not just punish bad (or in this case, just underwhelming) behavior.

Lets hope they are getting paychecks to make them feel good about themselves.

There's more to feeling good about yourself at work than just getting money.

[Starlord]

I understand how you feel Starlord.
Many people feel they're just protecting themselves from disappointment. But that won't work. I've been down that road before and all it does is create distress and depression with the people working for me and in the end, the whole project fell apart.

You need to encourage good behavior, not just punish bad (or in this case, just underwhelming) behavior.

That's why we need to be Positive and put out those great ideas we have without trolling, so FFXIV Doesn't Fall apart thats the last thing I or several other people want is for FFXIV to die.

We do need to Encourage good behavior as Fans of FFXIV so that FFXIV doesn't Fall apart

[TonyMontana]

That's why we need to be Positive and put out those great ideas we have without trolling, so FFXIV Doesn't Fall apart thats the last thing I or several other people want is for FFXIV to die.

We do need to Encourage good behavior as Fans of FFXIV so that FFXIV doesn't Fall apart

You think good behavior is gonna save the game from falling apart? Really?

[Gramul]

You think good behavior is gonna save the game from falling apart? Really?

It certainly won't hurt.

[Starlord]

You think good behavior is gonna save the game from falling apart? Really?

Do you really Think Obnoxious Attitudes is getting great Ideas to SE?

In Fact this goes as real life goes:

A Kid that Cries alot and wants this and that Generally doesn't get his way in that case its Discipline.

in FFXIV case, its You cant have Every idea in the game. Do you know how long that would take? Most people on here are impatient little kids the cry if a patch wasn't up to there expectations. Yes their will be disappointing times rest assured. But the new Dev is being taken places by Tanaka's Team which had Several Years in development, as to Yoshi-P's Team that bare even dented that much time.

He just got on the friggen ship, Can he at least Guide us to a Better future?

Plan? Let him Plan
Test? Let him Test
Analyze? Let him Analyze
Finalize? Let him Finalize
Implement? Everyone will be happy ( but of course people complain anyhow)

Things take time, Its easy for players to sit back and say, Hey I can do better than them! but in reality if your Behind SE chair's Programming Writing up a 30 page friggen code for a Video Game.. I say that pretty hard stuff.. and saying it's easy? hmm..

[Shai]

You think good behavior is gonna save the game from falling apart? Really?

Well, positive constructive feedback is important.

Negative biting sarcasm and disdain is useless.

I'm guilty of both, so I'm not pointing fingers.
I agree with the sentiment, but I don't think it's a realistic goal for an American (predominantly) forum.

I think there is a cultural difference first of all.
Americans feel entitled. They also tend to play the victim a lot.

Square Enix is wronging us! We paid good money for this game (last year)! We deserve more!

I think we do deserve more communication, more answers, more reasons "why" and less vague ideas without deadlines. As far as actual game updates and content are concerned, though, we should all know by now that everything is on hold until the battle system so the wait should be obvious, lacking patches should be obvious.

It's as if people are oblivious to things they've clearly been told around here, and confuse those things with things that have been talked about vaguely. I mean, some people I know actually thought precursory Job Quests were about to implement today - and that isn't even something they mentioned in passing or vaguely about doing ("precursory" part, I mean). I don't quite understand why people expect more than they are told around here.

[Shikyo]

You think good behavior is gonna save the game from falling apart? Really?

What is good behavior?
Is it agreeing with everything that being done even if thats not how u truly feel?
I rather have peoples honest opinions if u like something say it and if u dont say it and why, they are trying to please the ppl that they want to pay money for a product, so i would assume they need to know what the fans need to be happy with that product, honest feedback.
Good behavior=?

Like a submissive person that gets walked all over because they just agree with everything thats said/done no matter what, never having a mind of there own?

I couldnt respect anyone that has no passion to speak what is truly on there minds.
I would encourage honesty and respect that far more then some one thats ungenuine.

Also I agree in the thought that we wont see any info about 1.18 until like the last week in june because it wont be this game saving patch that everyone is hoping for......
I think we all know that, also they said june but even that isnt concrete it will probably get changed at the last minute..

I have come to expect that when it comes to this game's developement, If there is something or some way you can be dissappoint count on it happening its a bad habit they have gotten into, not a good look SE.

[polyhedral]

I think we all tried expressing ourselves during the beta.

It's all on deaf ears, just like in FFXI.

How do you kill AV again? I quit 4 years ago.