My problem with this amazing game.

[Dhaenon]

From what I can remember, it came out in 2003 with BLM WHM WAR THF MNK RDM and then Paladin, Dark Knight, Beastmaster, Ranger, Bard, and Summoner. However, the first expansion released in America the same time as the main game. Sooooo... if you are talking about in Japan, I don't know.

[Starlord]

From what I can remember, it came out in 2003 with BLM WHM WAR THF MNK RDM and then Paladin, Dark Knight, Beastmaster, Ranger, Bard, and Summoner. However, the first expansion released in America the same time as the main game. Sooooo... if you are talking about in Japan, I don't know.

Yep American launch is as you say. However, we are talking about launch to launch. FFXI Launch came with 6 Jobs. FFXIV ARR came out with 9 Jobs. If we are talking about jobs FFXIV has XI beat. I agree the jobs need more abilities but this is what we are stuck with for now till future updates ( Level cap) etc.

[Dhaenon]

Yep American launch is as you say. However, we are talking about launch to launch. FFXI Launch came with 6 Jobs. FFXIV ARR came out with 9 Jobs. If we are talking about jobs FFXIV has XI beat. I agree the jobs need more abilities but this is what we are stuck with for now till future updates ( Level cap) etc.

This just seems to be a common MMO launch thing. I believe MMOs should have to launch with competing functions as current MMOs.

[Reslin]

This just seems to be a common MMO launch thing. I believe MMOs should have to launch with competing functions as current MMOs.

You ask the impossible. MMO's launch then sink in money they've made overtime. What you ask is for someone to sink hundreds of millions at launch possibly over a billion.

[Kewitt]

Yep American launch is as you say. However, we are talking about launch to launch. FFXI Launch came with 6 Jobs. FFXIV ARR came out with 9 Jobs. If we are talking about jobs FFXIV has XI beat. I agree the jobs need more abilities but this is what we are stuck with for now till future updates ( Level cap) etc.

Zilart added NIN DRG SAM NIN And (SMN which you didn't need zilert to unlock.) At release in japan. at level 30 you could unlock Paladin, Dark Knight, Beastmaster, Ranger, Bard

[Seirra_Lanzce]

Zilart added NIN DRG SAM NIN And (SMN which you didn't need zilert to unlock.) At release in japan. at level 30 you could unlock Paladin, Dark Knight, Beastmaster, Ranger, Bard

Rise of zilart was when NA release, so is not the same like how it was FFXI in 1 year ago before it was release to NA.

Even so the amount of JOBS is less compare to FFXIV.

[Kalahed]

Even so the amount of JOBS is less compare to FFXIV.

No, FFXI had 11 jobs at JP release that were all fully different classes (Warrior, Monk, Thief, White Mage, Red Mage, Black Mage, Paladin, Bard, Darknight, Ranger, Beastmaster)
FFXIV has 9 jobs that are fully different classes (not so much for Summoner and Scholar but ok).
The other “classes” are not played post level 40 by 95% of the player base, so I do not see why we should count them.

May we add that this is a re-release and not a fully new game? I think expecting a bit more than what we got was not foolish.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

No, FFXI had 11 jobs at JP release that were all fully different classes (Warrior, Monk, Thief, White Mage, Red Mage, Black Mage, Paladin, Bard, Darknight, Ranger, Beastmaster)
FFXIV has 9 jobs that are fully different classes (not so much for Summoner and Scholar but ok).
The other “classes” are not played post level 40 by 95% of the player base, so I do not see why we should count them.

May we add that this is a re-release and not a fully new game? I think expecting a bit more than what we got was not foolish.

If you go that way, i will say this, FFXIV have more, 8 Classes & 9 Jobs.

[Shiyo]

If you go that way, i will say this, FFXIV have more, 8 Classes & 9 Jobs.

Rise of zilart was when NA release, so is not the same like how it was FFXI in 1 year ago before it was release to NA.

Even so the amount of JOBS is less compare to FFXIV.

Decade old game, we expect better quality from games in over a decade. Should I have expected Pokemon X/Y to be nearly identical to Pokemon Red/Blue in every way, only 150 pokemon, no abilities, no held items, no new end game? No, because it's a game from almost 20 years ago.

MMO =/= Single player game.

Don't bother ever responding to me again.

[Kalahed]

If you go that way, i will say this, FFXIV have more, 8 Classes & 9 Jobs.

If I go which way? The way of the facts?
As I wrote, the 11 jobs of FFXI had different gameplays, there were true distinct classes.
The difference between jobs and classes in FFXIV is slim, to say the least, and do not offer a different gameplay.
More than that, the game is not designed so you use either your job or class. As I said above, about 95% plays only their job,
so the 8 classes cannot be compared to a FFXI job.
I wish the game was designed so you had more differences between your class and your job.