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    Quote Originally Posted by Slate View Post
    you cant technically say you have done all content until all classes/jobs/profs to 50, all minions, achievements, allagan gear, etc etc etc

    there is no lack of content, the fault is your lack of wanting to stick with it
    I'm sorry but no there are some achievements that takes months and years to get unless they changed it. I wish people would stop being so blind to this game, It is lacking in the "End Game" content this is why SE has a lockout on Coils and a weekly Cap on Myth to keep people around. If I really wanted to I could level all jobs/craft/gathers in like a month and Trust me in FFXI I was one of those people who did level everything (except crafting to much gil).

    I'm surprised the "You shouldn't have rushed to end game" hasn't come up yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I'm sorry but no there are some achievements that takes months and years to get unless they changed it. I wish people would stop being so blind to this game, It is lacking in the "End Game" content this is why SE has a lockout on Coils and a weekly Cap on Myth to keep people around. If I really wanted to I could level all jobs/craft/gathers in like a month and Trust me in FFXI I was one of those people who did level everything (except crafting to much gil).

    I'm surprised the "You shouldn't have rushed to end game" hasn't come up yet.
    You can't really fault Square for having players who play 6 hours daily. You will never be able to make enough content, bug test it, and then release it to satisfy that player base. The content is what you make it. If you dont have patience as an individual, dont paly MMOs at launch.

    At this point, most MMO players have seen almost all mechanics to any boss fight imaginable. So content isn't super hard like it used to be back in the day. Boss fights are becoming more about the experience than actually the difficulty of beating it. If they actually make boss fights very hard people are quick to say they are broken.

    If you are Square you cant win either way.
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    Last edited by Slate; 11-14-2013 at 10:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I'm sorry but no there are some achievements that takes months and years to get unless they changed it. I wish people would stop being so blind to this game, It is lacking in the "End Game" content this is why SE has a lockout on Coils and a weekly Cap on Myth to keep people around. If I really wanted to I could level all jobs/craft/gathers in like a month and Trust me in FFXI I was one of those people who did level everything (except crafting to much gil).

    I'm surprised the "You shouldn't have rushed to end game" hasn't come up yet.
    This game has a lot more end game content than most do at launch. I wish people would stop being blind to this fact. Hell, this game has more end game content before the first patch than some out there after the first expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naelle View Post
    This game has a lot more end game content than most do at launch. I wish people would stop being blind to this fact. Hell, this game has more end game content before the first patch than some out there after the first expansion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slate View Post
    You can't really fault Square for having players who play 6 hours daily. You will never be able to make enough content, bug test it, and then release it to satisfy that player base. The content is what you make it. If you dont have patience as an individual, dont paly MMOs at launch.

    At this point, most MMO players have seen almost all mechanics to any boss fight imaginable. So content isn't super hard like it used to be back in the day. Boss fights are becoming more about the experience than actually the difficulty of beating it. If they actually make boss fights very hard people are quick to say they are broken.

    If you are Square you cant win either way.
    I'm going to put these together.

    It is SEs Fault FFXIV ARR 2.0 is not a new MMO hence 2.0. They knew what they were doing. Yes maybe things wouldn't be so bad if they would have had Crystal tower at launch but what can we do.

    And there are people who play 12-18hrs+ a day. I guess its their fault for paying a monthly sub to play this game.

    Lets not forget Yoshi P himself said the real game starts at 50.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I'm going to put these together.

    It is SEs Fault FFXIV ARR 2.0 is not a new MMO hence 2.0. They knew what they were doing. Yes maybe things wouldn't be so bad if they would have had Crystal tower at launch but what can we do.

    And there are people who play 12-18hrs+ a day. I guess its their fault for paying a monthly sub to play this game.
    No, but they can't really complain that they are burning through content so fast. I can see you aren't comprehending the other side of the argument so that's ok. You play the game as is, if you can't wait for content maybe this isn't the MMO for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slate View Post
    No, but they can't really complain that they are burning through content so fast. I can see you aren't comprehending the other side of the argument so that's ok. You play the game as is, if you can't wait for content maybe this isn't the MMO for you.
    No I understand both sides. There's stuff to do in the game level all crafts/Gathers to 50, Do all the main/side quest, Level all jobs to 50 obtain relics (can't get all the allagan/relic gear cause of lockouts and caps), Level Choco. So I get both sides. I'm going to keep playing 2 days (6hrs total) a week until there is something better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Lets not forget Yoshi P himself said the real game starts at 50.......
    You know, every time people use these one-liners to complain you just look like whiny kindergartners.

    I guess I've been playing a fake game these past two months since I haven't touched endgame yet.

    While not everyone has to level as slowly as me, to say that the game has little content is simply ridiculous. Few endgame content? Sure. But what exactly were you expecting from a new MMO? Even FFXI that you mentioned took a very long time to have a lot of endgame content and had plenty of the lockouts that you're complaining about here: Dynamis once every 72 hours, HNMs spawning every 21-24 hours (and only 1 group per server got to actually fight them!), Ullikummi on a retarded spawn window bottlenecking Sky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    You know, every time people use these one-liners to complain you just look like whiny kindergartners.

    I guess I've been playing a fake game these past two months since I haven't touched endgame yet.

    While not everyone has to level as slowly as me, to say that the game has little content is simply ridiculous. Few endgame content? Sure. But what exactly were you expecting from a new MMO? Even FFXI that you mentioned took a very long time to have a lot of endgame content and had plenty of the lockouts that you're complaining about here: Dynamis once every 72 hours, HNMs spawning every 21-24 hours (and only 1 group per server got to actually fight them!), Ullikummi on a retarded spawn window bottlenecking Sky.
    For ARR, the level cap is going to be level 50 to start the game. We don't want players to have to spend a lot of time getting to level 50. The reason behind this is that we believe the game up to level 50 is basically your tutorial. The real game begins from level 50. We have the real challenges begin there. We have a lot of end content that we've already prepared to be ready at the launch of the game.
    Linky : http://www.finalfantasy-fxn.net/inde...p=more&id=1932
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post

    For ARR, the level cap is going to be level 50 to start the game. We don't want players to have to spend a lot of time getting to level 50. The reason behind this is that we believe the game up to level 50 is basically your tutorial. The real game begins from level 50. We have the real challenges begin there. We have a lot of end content that we've already prepared to be ready at the launch of the game.
    Linky : http://www.finalfantasy-fxn.net/inde...p=more&id=1932
    Cute, but you completely disregard the context that statement was made. Yoshi-P said that the real game starts at 50, in the context that that's when you start to have challenging things to do.

    He did not say it in the sense that most people whining use it in, aka, the only content that counts is endgame.

    Same stupid thing with people using the "zoom out the camera" one-liner.
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    Last edited by Gilthas; 11-15-2013 at 05:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Cute, but you completely disregard the context that statement was made. Yoshi-P said that the real game starts at 50, in the context that that's when you start to have challenging things to do.

    He did not say it in the sense that most people whining use it in, aka, the only content that counts is endgame.

    Same stupid thing with people using the "zoom out the camera" one-liner.
    "Yoshida emphasized that reaching level 50 doesn't mean game over. The story will progress with new and challenging quests and dungeons, adding more to the player's overall experience. Level 50 is actually starting point of the game."



    Is he serious ? 2 story dungeons , 2 dungeons ( WP being the one people do most ) 1 raid , 5 primals which you only do once for relic quest . Basically this game is log in speed run WP all day till 300 tomes , maybe run coil if you are lucky to have spot in group. Then log out for 6 days till tomes reset
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