The Solo disease?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

LS are not grouping its a glorified chat room with people that happened to allow you past their red tape(i swear some LS make it feel like im applying for the FBI all over again o.O haha)

Yes it is an LS is a group of people under one flag. Much like a clan or guild or club. (in real life)

partying isn't always about grouping up.

individual = 1 person
group = many people.

Linkshell = many people.

[Asmeret]

Kilta... You still dun get.

[Azurus]

ok so a server is a group too? since everyone is under the banner of the same server even those who avoid other people like the plague are part of a group still since they are under there servers flag? great logic

[Kilta_Firelotus]

ok so a server is a group too? since everyone is under the banner of the same server even those who avoid other people like the plague are part of a group still since they are under there servers flag? great logic

more of a community but ya. I get it just fine. do you? How can a person solo (aka play by themselves) with so many people are around and your not alone, unless you avoid people.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Hi, my name is thedevilsjester and I am a soloist.

I see a lot of hate for solo players in almost every MMORPG. I had hoped that FFXIV, being very solo friendly would be a haven for the soloist because we have been officially "accepted", unfortunately even those who defend solo players, do so with the back of their hand.

Solo players, apparently, only solo because they do not have time for larger/group content, or just cannot find a group to play with. It seems as if playing solo is some kind of ailment that we would all love to be cured of.

Its not. I play solo because I like to play solo. I have plenty of time on my hands, and could find a group easily if I wanted one. I don't. In fact, unless friends need help doing something, or I have no choice in the matter, I do not group at all, and will often turn groups down because I simply do not want to play with other people.

Why play an MMO then? Because off-line RPG's do not even come close to the splendour, size, and sheer awesomeness that MMORPG's do, and probably never will. And, even though, as a soloist, I like to play the game by myself, that doesn't mean that I want to play in a lifeless empty world. I want my game world populated, and to feel alive, I just don't want to play with anyone. If I have to put up with an occasional group to play in such a world, its a price I am willing to pay.

Sorry for the...rant, I just ran into too many "hate the soloist" topics today, and needed to vent!

Hopefully those who just cannot understand why someone would play solo (trust me, I feel the same way about groups), can take something from this to better understand a soloists reasons for playing an MMORPG.

Here is the topic that started it all. Point out where OP meant content. Point out where op stated he talks to the community.
Also point out why OP even started this post or give evidence of any topic that people declared that hate soloers... or rather in OP case, hate those who do not join parties.

So far All i see is a person with a chip on their shoulder who felt a need to declare who he is, and that he hates grouping and tried to avoid it.
(again grouping doesn't equal partying, as you can be in a group with out forming a party)

[Rentahamster]

Here is the topic that started it all. Point out where OP meant content.

Solo players, apparently, only solo because they do not have time for larger/group content, or just cannot find a group to play with. It seems as if playing solo is some kind of ailment that we would all love to be cured of.

Its not. I play solo because I like to play solo. I have plenty of time on my hands, and could find a group easily if I wanted one. I don't. In fact, unless friends need help doing something, or I have no choice in the matter, I do not group at all, and will often turn groups down because I simply do not want to play with other people.

"play" in this context obviously means battle and not chatting.

Point out where op stated he talks to the community.

Its not. I play solo because I like to play solo. I have plenty of time on my hands, and could find a group easily if I wanted one. I don't. In fact, unless friends need help doing something, or I have no choice in the matter, I do not group at all, and will often turn groups down because I simply do not want to play with other people.

Also point out why OP even started this post or give evidence of any topic that people declared that hate soloers... or rather in OP case, hate those who do not join parties.

The only reason someone needs to start a thread is because he wanted to. We don't need your permission to make threads that only you approve of.

(again grouping doesn't equal partying, as you can be in a group with out forming a party)

That is the definition that you are choosing to use that has NO RELEVANCE AT ALL to the current discussion because that is NOT AT ALL what we are talking about.

In this specific thread, which is discussing a very specific issue, grouping = party play. Hell, even in normal conversation, the default interpretation of "grouping" is "party play"

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Here is a valid question, why insult me for having a different opinion, or way of thinking? Just because I see things differently doesn't mean i do not understand things. I do not insult a person for their way of thinking, and I have never once took aperson post count and use it to insult someone.

As far as I'm concern OP had no reason to start a rant. As no one is hating him for soloing. a50 like count should be proof of that. But more importently no one cares. If someone is rude ignore them I've been told this many times, when I try to get ppl to understand me. (which they do not nor wish to.)

[Rentahamster]

Here is a valid question, why insult me for having a different opinion, or way of thinking?

Because you are derailing the thread discussion by arguing a point of conflict that is entirely of your own creation and that has nothing AT ALL to do with the issues the OP posted about.

If you want to have the discussion about the overall social aspects of MMO and how the social structures of Final Fantasy 14 contribute or take away from that, then make your own thread to discuss that.

THIS IS NOT THE THREAD FOR THAT DISCUSSION AS IT IS UNRELATED TO WHAT THE OP SAID.

If someone is rude ignore them I've been told this many times, when I try to get ppl to understand me. (which they do not nor wish to.)

The problem is not that people don't understand you. The problem is that you don't understand them (which I pointed out in a previous post showing you how the stuff the OP talked about completely flew over your head).

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Here is a valid question, why insult me for having a different opinion, or way of thinking? Just because I see things differently doesn't mean i do not understand things. I do not insult a person for their way of thinking, and I have never once took aperson post count and use it to insult someone.

As far as I'm concern OP had no reason to start a rant. As no one is hating him for soloing. a50 like count should be proof of that. But more importently no one cares. If someone is rude ignore them I've been told this many times, when I try to get ppl to understand me. (which they do not nor wish to.)

Again... you cannot debate any subject correctly because you run off of emotions. Do you not understand that it's different than making intelligent arguments? Where you actually use your brain and rationally think through your counter points rather than quickly respond to hot button topics that insult your way of thinking? If someone is being venomous, you already win the debate by not responding, but that is an intellectual decision. Something you clearly cannot take control of.

[Azurus]

what came first DnD or MUDS? im pretty sure DnD did, but correct me if im wrong. I feel that MUDS were the link between the original RPGs like DnD and the mmos we have today.