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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Also how many times do I need to say "i do not mind solo'ers" till someone reads it lol.
    Because you follow it up with "unless they happen to be soloing when I want to form a party, and then they are just rude." Which pretty much negates your "I do not mind soloers" stance. Unless of course, we pretend that the reason we don't want to party with you is because "we are busy" (but damn us if we say "we are busy soloing"), so not telling you we are soloing, somehow magically makes it all better...which doesn't make any sense because in the grand scheme of things, you will still not have enough people to form your party (or have difficulty doing so).

    so you deny ever posting "that SE should scale content much like levequest" >.> i read that several times from you....
    Yes. If you mistakenly believe you have read that several times from me, please quote the posts directly. You will find out, if you read closely enough, that I will occasionally talk about the benefits of scaled content, and how great I think the levequest system is because of its scaling features, but I go no further than that.

    The solo'er just refuses.
    No, I would wager a guess that the soloer is typically busy doing something else. Soloing. You may in some twisted way think that this is actually "doing nothing", but that is so far from the truth. So the soloer doesn't want to drop what they are doing, to participate in what you are doing, sounds perfectly legitimate to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedevilsjester View Post
    Because you follow it up with "unless they happen to be soloing when I want to form a party, and then they are just rude." Which pretty much negates your "I do not mind soloers" stance. Unless of course, we pretend that the reason we don't want to party with you is because "we are busy" (but damn us if we say "we are busy soloing"), so not telling you we are soloing, somehow magically makes it all better...which doesn't make any sense because in the grand scheme of things, you will still not have enough people to form your party (or have difficulty doing so).


    Yes. If you have read that several times from me, please quote the posts directly. (and not a copy and paste).
    takes up room..... You still attacking myside of the story though. And not realising how rude you do sound. There is infact a thing called being TOO HONEST when at times it better to not say the full story.
    By saying " no i'm busy soloing" can be seen as a slap in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    takes up room.....
    Wow. You accuse me numerous times of making statements that I never made, and when asked to back up your accusations by quoting any of my posts that supposedly say such a thing, you reply with "takes up room". Wow. Can we do that? Can we just make up stuff about someone?

    And you claim that I am being rude?
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    so you deny ever posting "that SE should scale content much like levequest" >.> i read that several times from you....
    Also why do you insist on attack myside of the story? Ypu said your side 20 times over I read your side 20 times over. I do not effin care wtf u do. And infact even ask why you made this topic as I never see anyone insult solo'ers. Proof is most ppl attacking me when I'm just sharing my insight on how what your posting looks like to me. Which I have a right to say.

    You have been twisting what I said to work in your favor that I'm "against soloers" when I infact as said 12 times I do not mind solo'ers. I've only stated how your play style can effect others. Stop twisting that into your favor. There is a difference to what you said. Looking for members and finding solo'ers is different then looking for a tank and finding casters. Point being that casters are wanting to group and will get them if they want to join. The solo'er just refuses.
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    TDJ there is infact a right and wrong way to refuse an invite. Your way as true as it might be, can sound rude, and make you out to be a snob. Much like the queen of england asking you if you want a cup of tea and it is a tea you hate. It would be considered an insult to say "no, because i hate that tea". It would be more polite to say " no thanks, but thank you for offering"

    Being too honest can be an insult. Would you honestly tell a girl she looks fat (and she does (which is an inault) or would you tell she she is fine as is? And yes these are infact similar questions. And instances where being too honest can be seen as rude.
    And I do not mind solo'er because I guy who i dated (who i still love) did infact play ffxi solo. I looked up to him for it. And though he PERFERED to solo. If asked he would join in groups. Which is the difference between you and him.

    You coulda really have types your post better. Like not mentioning you refuse party invites because pof not wanting to play with others.
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    So by telling the truth, I am not properly conducting myself? Do you want to come over and just play the game for me?

    I should also word my posts better? I just can't seem to do anything right can I? So I should try and write a topic explaining my position as a soloer, without really supplying all the details in fear that I might accidentally offend someone by the way I choose to play the game? How about you write up a guide of what we should and should not do on the game and forums and give it to SE see if they will include it into the EULA.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    You asked for quotes not copy and paste. I copy and paste due to lack of room. But I do add quotations. I type on the ps3 and the quote code does infact take up room.
    Direct quoting supplies the link to the post quoted so others can verify that the quoted text is indeed part of the post you claim it is.

    Proof you did infact ask for this. post 13
    Post 13 says no such thing. You are radically misinterpreting you what you read. If you mean the line where I ask the question of why a game has to be designed for one or the other. You would have to twist that one a good deal to even remotely mean what you claim it to be.
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    TDJ i highly suggest stop twisting my posts to be negative. You starting drama all on your own and acting like a chained dog getting beat on. I have every right to tell you my side of the story and how soloers effected my game play as well as my friends. It should npt be hard to find people to party with. And no it isn't pestering. There is a right and wrong way to handle things. Just tell people your busy. But if you say no because i'm s soloer it is a slap in the face to someone else.
    The more people who solo group based mmo does infact mean the less likelyhood of a group being formed. If groups are not being formed then someone who does enjoy groups can't find one. They can't enjoy the game the way they want.

    Also stop assunming people are being pests, or rude. Your replies have been rude. Want people not to get on the case of solo'ers, set a good example and DO NOT insult people who show you a the other side of it.
    instead of fighting with me or other players, consider what is being said.
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    I have an urge to watch '50 First Dates' now. Perhaps 'Groundhog's Day'...
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    TDJ Has been after reading all posts a 4th time has been infact playing the victem card to people who say their side of the story. Pretty much since the first post. Or making comments like Hopefully those who just cannot understand why someone would play solo (trust me, I feel the same way about groups), can take something from this to better understand a soloists reasons for playing an MMORPG.
    the bolded is infact him questioning why ppl play mmo in groups.

    These comments/ attacks can be seen as very rude. And yet don;t get why some soloist are infact not well liked?

    Well when a soloist puffs his chest demanding respect or understanding but refuses to see the otherside, why should people respect him?
    Why does he deserve to attack anyone of the opposing side? He is by far no victem here as I rarely if ever say any topic on here hating soloers.

    Can you say "cry for attention" ? If you want ppl to understand your side do not attack them for trying to get you to understand their sude as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    the bolded is infact him questioning why ppl play mmo in groups.
    Did that take a lot of effort to deduce? What are you trying to accomplish here? To make it clear that one side doesn't understand why the other side likes what they like? That is a pretty general idea that I am sure everyone knows already. As my OP said, I am trying to provide information to help groupers understand why soloists enjoy it. So at least if they do not understand on an emotional level, they will on an intellectual one.

    As for the rest of your post, well it doesn't really make any sense. No one demanded anything, least of all respect, this is something your active imagination cooked up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    tdj want me to respect you?
    Not really. I usually try and avoid people like you, I do not have any desire for your respect.

    This topic has veered so far off its original course. It started as a conversation with interesting points on all sides, and degraded into a point and counter trying to undermine what I say by making up or twisting details to your liking. I grow tired of defending myself from baseless accusations.

    I did infact ask " do you deny asking for scalable content" You said you never posted it. I just proved you infact did.
    You did no such thing. You pointed to a post that contained no such request.
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