Sorry for party droppin'

[Reiterpallasch]

7 Defense. 4 Vitality.

I remain unconvinced.

And anywhere from 5-20ish of STR/DEX/INT/MND/PIE, acc, crit, det, s.speed from only armor alone, not including accessories. That's a significant amount, even if you don't want to believe it.

Again, people aren't saying that you can't do AK in AF and AH accessories. You can do it just fine, if you're good at your job and party role. Good players can do a lot of things, but getting 4 good players together in a random duty finder pug isn't usually one of them.

If you're bad, then the rest of the group can usually make up for that. But a full group of AF geared sub-par players won't be able to do it easily, if at all.

[Welsper59]

Again, people aren't saying that you can't do AK in AF and AH accessories.

These people seem to think just that though.

You were all in your AF gear, very nice gear, but AK requires a bit more.

Lol, no. AK is designed for a tier above WP I.e. You're meant to have some lvl 55 items for it. AF doesn't really cut it except for the body.

Good luck getting past Demon Wall in full AF. That boss is a hard gear check.

[Shydo123]

Gear has little to do with beating AK. It is more likely due to the fact that people grind through FATES with new jobs without ever learning how to play the job (other than AE spam).

[Ri_ri]

Gear has little to do with beating AK. It is more likely due to the fact that people grind through FATES with new jobs without ever learning how to play the job (other than AE spam).

Aaand here's the "I hate FATEs" post. This thread is now complete.

[Kewitt]

I did AK with full AF 45 axe, My hubby was Full AF.
WHM only one part Darklight
Other dd was a little better geared.

I will say now with full darklight and one i90 it's a lot easier.

[LTEvil]

Aaand here's the "I hate FATEs" post. This thread is now complete.

lol'd.
In other news, I didn't know wp existed till it started giving 100 philos. Af and a lvl 44 weapon from vendor is fine if you aren't garbage. With that being said having wp gear makes it easier but isn't needed/required unless bad of course.
Btw fates clearly make players worse because ff is so complex with those 7 abilties at most rotations not counting instant slip ins.

[Delorean]

Video or it never happened.

do u really want a 119 minute video?

I actually still have the log from that fight. If you want, I can upload it to LogRep when I get around to updating the client

crafted militia gear (hq)

that's basically like saying there is a significant difference between AF and AK gear

which there is

which is why i did not include it in my calculation

Do you know what "adds up" means?

i do not think i would rely on 7 defense and 4 vitality to save my life that early.

especially since it looks like crap

do you know how many times I have run wanderer's palace? enough times. i have only seen the chain coif drop 3 times

you could run WP for 4 very minor upgrades... or you could run AK for a very significant upgrade in most slots. i think i'd rather use my time getting something a lot better than getting something slightly better

Af and a lvl 44 weapon from vendor is fine if you aren't garbage. With that being said having wp gear makes it easier but isn't needed/required unless bad of course.

sic em lt insatiable

[Gucci_Charms]

Bikini runs are awesome!

[Orophin]

I think I did AK with an i55 weapon, all AF gear and maybe one DL accessory. People seem to have forgotten what is actually possible after having made these dumb "need relic +1 and full DL" requirements to run the level 50 dungeons.

[Shaone]

I'm sorry to the party I left just after the demon wall was beaten due to my poor time planning and the run taking a little longer than I allowed for (35 mins to get to that point). I did explain why I was leaving, and it was the first time I've ever had the DF exit penalty. Hopefully you got a replacement DPS without too much delay, and the last boss went well.