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    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Arya Stark
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    Leviathan
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
    7 Defense. 4 Vitality.

    I remain unconvinced.
    And anywhere from 5-20ish of STR/DEX/INT/MND/PIE, acc, crit, det, s.speed from only armor alone, not including accessories. That's a significant amount, even if you don't want to believe it.

    Again, people aren't saying that you can't do AK in AF and AH accessories. You can do it just fine, if you're good at your job and party role. Good players can do a lot of things, but getting 4 good players together in a random duty finder pug isn't usually one of them.

    If you're bad, then the rest of the group can usually make up for that. But a full group of AF geared sub-par players won't be able to do it easily, if at all.
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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    Again, people aren't saying that you can't do AK in AF and AH accessories.
    These people seem to think just that though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uriahnool View Post
    You were all in your AF gear, very nice gear, but AK requires a bit more.
    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    Lol, no. AK is designed for a tier above WP I.e. You're meant to have some lvl 55 items for it. AF doesn't really cut it except for the body.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyko View Post
    Good luck getting past Demon Wall in full AF. That boss is a hard gear check.
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    Shydo123's Avatar
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    Soccora Sureshot
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Gear has little to do with beating AK. It is more likely due to the fact that people grind through FATES with new jobs without ever learning how to play the job (other than AE spam).
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    Ri_ri's Avatar
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Shydo123 View Post
    Gear has little to do with beating AK. It is more likely due to the fact that people grind through FATES with new jobs without ever learning how to play the job (other than AE spam).
    Aaand here's the "I hate FATEs" post. This thread is now complete.
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    Kewitt's Avatar
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    I did AK with full AF 45 axe, My hubby was Full AF.
    WHM only one part Darklight
    Other dd was a little better geared.

    I will say now with full darklight and one i90 it's a lot easier.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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    Player
    LTEvil's Avatar
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    Jewel
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    Character
    Sin Takeda
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    Aaand here's the "I hate FATEs" post. This thread is now complete.
    lol'd.
    In other news, I didn't know wp existed till it started giving 100 philos. Af and a lvl 44 weapon from vendor is fine if you aren't garbage. With that being said having wp gear makes it easier but isn't needed/required unless bad of course.
    Btw fates clearly make players worse because ff is so complex with those 7 abilties at most rotations not counting instant slip ins.
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    Delorean's Avatar
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by teh_nam3less View Post
    Video or it never happened.
    do u really want a 119 minute video?

    I actually still have the log from that fight. If you want, I can upload it to LogRep when I get around to updating the client

    crafted militia gear (hq)
    that's basically like saying there is a significant difference between AF and AK gear

    which there is

    which is why i did not include it in my calculation

    Do you know what "adds up" means?
    i do not think i would rely on 7 defense and 4 vitality to save my life that early.

    especially since it looks like crap

    do you know how many times I have run wanderer's palace? enough times. i have only seen the chain coif drop 3 times

    you could run WP for 4 very minor upgrades... or you could run AK for a very significant upgrade in most slots. i think i'd rather use my time getting something a lot better than getting something slightly better

    Quote Originally Posted by LTEvil View Post
    Af and a lvl 44 weapon from vendor is fine if you aren't garbage. With that being said having wp gear makes it easier but isn't needed/required unless bad of course.
    sic em lt insatiable
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    Gucci_Charms's Avatar
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    Character
    Miley Cyrus
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Bikini runs are awesome!
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    Orophin's Avatar
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    Character
    Orophin Calmcacil
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I think I did AK with an i55 weapon, all AF gear and maybe one DL accessory. People seem to have forgotten what is actually possible after having made these dumb "need relic +1 and full DL" requirements to run the level 50 dungeons.
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    Shaone's Avatar
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    Character
    Shaone Abides
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I'm sorry to the party I left just after the demon wall was beaten due to my poor time planning and the run taking a little longer than I allowed for (35 mins to get to that point). I did explain why I was leaving, and it was the first time I've ever had the DF exit penalty. Hopefully you got a replacement DPS without too much delay, and the last boss went well.
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