The issue with relying on DoTs is that all mobs can only have 2 bars of debuffs and DoTs are considered a debuff. With my experience as a SMN, I am finding it hard to even maintain one DoT on Odin due to everyone spamming theirs on it along with other debuffs. He can appear for me the entire duration of the fate and I can never apply my DoTs, honestly I think this needs to change for classes that rely on DoTs for damage. A mob has 2 full bars of debuffs so I can't attack him? I get why they put it at 2 bars, I do but it is just frustrating trying to do Behemoth and Odin for SMN (And maybe bards due their Bloodletter reset) because DoTs will virtually never be on there. 2 SMN DoTs require a cast, the other is instant but has a huge delay effect due to animation and we are competing with classes that each have 2 DoTs and are instant. (Disregarding cnj and thm without thundercloud) Spamming Ruin + Garuda doesn't even give remotely enough contribution to even hit bronze.