In regards to quitters

[Akujin]

I dunno Ive just wasted 45 mins because I had to quit . There is no gear score in this game , but having run AK over 100 times I have a good idea of what gear it takes to dps the wall .

When you inspect healer and dps and they are wearing crap lvl 48-49 crafted gear no materia in slots for the purpose of lving it up and melding it , I insta quit . Sorry not 25 mins slugging through trash only to fail on wall because dps is not geared.

Then I get another group and DPS start pulling everything they can see around the area before first boss , basically 2 groups plus the 2 giants , 1 dies pretty much insta gibbed , and I just leave before wipe . See tanks can pull too , pulled a dick move and quit.

The 3rd group, inspect healer , he has fairy , and yep crafted gear again .. I say , I hate fairies and leave .

P.S ( got nothing against crafted gear but wearing lvl 48-49 gear in a lvl 50 dungeon and not even having sockets filled is just trolling )

Thats -your- problem, not theirs. While the gear you mentioned may not be ideal for an quick AK run, it's still doable. If you can't deal with it, then you're far too righteously minded.

I have gone into several AKs as the highest geared dps in the group, several times with another dps, or healer, or even tank who arent what I would consider 'great' geared. Do I leave? Nope. Do I give them crap for not being able to afford top tier gear, or having already spent thousands of tomes for DL? Nope again. I suck it up and do my job.

And I have never, once, failed on a run because of it. Yes, there have been times when the wall has taken 2-3 times until people get the hang of it. At times, the reason these people are badly geared is because they haven't ran the dungeon yet to have the opportunity to get the higher tier gear out of their own AF.

And yes, on more than one occasion I've had to single man the wall till its down because others die/fall.

Get over yourself. And anyone else on this thread/forum who think they are God's gift to this game.

[Brahma]

My friend is trying to down Titan in the DF... poor dear. Seriously, even in good parties, most quit after one fail. I'd be in support of harsher punishments, but trolls exist... as I've had the misfortune of encountering. When someone is making you lose deliberately, there's not much you can do but quit out. So, yeah, I'm not sure what a fix to this situation would be; maybe people just need to stop be wussies.

[Kewitt]

I would like a Quit penalty increase.
15 min increase everytime you do it resetting at end of week.
Doesn't effect trails.


But really need to see how gear check works out.
Did a Garuda with a Warrior in AF and it failed so fast it wasn't even funny.

[NyneAlexander]

When you inspect healer and dps and they are wearing crap lvl 48-49 crafted gear no materia in slots for the purpose of lving it up and melding it , I insta quit . Sorry not 25 mins slugging through trash only to fail on wall because dps is not geared.



The 3rd group, inspect healer , he has fairy , and yep crafted gear again .. I say , I hate fairies and leave .

P.S ( got nothing against crafted gear but wearing lvl 48-49 gear in a lvl 50 dungeon and not even having sockets filled is just trolling )

Knowing your single target and AoE rotations well > good gear every time. I promise that two good dps with relic weapons and NO accessories can down the wall before the bees make an impact.

[Risae]

There is a special place in hell reserved for you, or there should be.

Seriously, I've lost count of the number of people who quit a run at the drop of a hat. Even had one in a titan run who quit immediately claiming that most of the party wasn't geared for the fight. Most of the party was equipped with full Darklight gear. (I even had my relic body.)

Given how often this happens, I think SE should lock quitters out of the duty finder for upwards of 24 hours, depending how frequently they quit out of a duty, and how soon they quit out. This would pressure people to actually commit to a party once they registered for a dungeon run. Why should the people willing to work through a duty be punished because one person thinks they're too awesome to have anything less than perfection?

Uh... okay?

[Genesiser]

. Even had one in a titan run who quit immediately claiming that most of the party wasn't geared for the fight. Most of the party was equipped with full Darklight gear. (I even had my relic body.)

Maybe if so many people weren't bad at this game, people wouldn't ask for such outrageous item levels. I've been using a parser for a while and the highest IL item I have is a the 1 star hq weapon I crafted for my monk. Everything else is 50-55. Here I am usually parsing at around 200 dps and a majority of the time, other people in WAY better gear than myself are barely breaking 150, let alone 200. I'll look at total damage done to a boss and when I subtract the LB I'll still regularly do a minimum of 10k more damage to a boss than the 2nd place guy. I can only imagine how much the difference will be when I actually get geared. So basically, on this one you have to blame the players as to why people quit when they see low gear scores.

[Huxer]

This is just another post filled with venom and a suggestion that's completely unreasonable. It's not even worth pointing out why this idea wouldn't work, I'm sure anyone who tries can think of half a dozen reasons. Essentially you don't like other people having the freedom to leave and that they can do so, and have done so makes you mad. Yep, sorry, I like having freedom to leave if the team isn't being fun for me. I would seriously NEVER use DF again if I was forced to stay with the people regardless of the situation. Ridiculous.

[Zakalwe]

My friend is trying to down Titan in the DF... poor dear. [Snip]

Oh my goodness. No one should do Titan HM through DF, unless you are doing it only for the practice. DF forces you to have an extra tank you don't need, leaving you either a DPS or healer short. Plus, in my experience the most successful Titan pugs are groups who not only stick with it but evolve. That is, slowly weed out players who for technical or gearing or other reasons clearly can't yet do it. And of course it is impossible to 'evolve' a group of random from various servers

[Rosekitten]

I've had people drop random groups a lot recently... I haven't tried to DF the primal fights yet but as far as the 4 mans people have no patience once so ever so I can only imagine the larger groups.

I'm in the process of walking my friend through how to tank runs and explain things to him and I state this at the start of the runs that he's new to mmo's and tanking. Really he's not bad at his class given he's almost 50 now and had people helping him along the way ^^

But the first mess up and the healer leaves or the first loss of agro or some little slip up.. so silly D; I would happily not put him or myself through the stress of DF but the lack of healers or people willing to do the lower end content if people need it in the FC I'm in rather gives me little to no choice.

[Molly_Millions]

I've had people drop random groups a lot recently... I haven't tried to DF the primal fights yet but as far as the 4 mans people have no patience once so ever so I can only imagine the larger groups.

I'm in the process of walking my friend through how to tank runs and explain things to him and I state this at the start of the runs that he's new to mmo's and tanking. Really he's not bad at his class given he's almost 50 now and had people helping him along the way ^^

But the first mess up and the healer leaves or the first loss of agro or some little slip up.. so silly D; I would happily not put him or myself through the stress of DF but the lack of healers or people willing to do the lower end content if people need it in the FC I'm in rather gives me little to no choice.

I saw this for the first time yesterday. The tank left at the third pull of AK. Didn't say a word, just bounced. How is anyone supposed to fix what they did wrong if people just leave without at least attempting to address it?