In regards to quitters

[Arkista]

24hrs is to harsh. And just to let you all know there is a way around the lock out so I don't care if they made the lockout 72hrs anyone can bypass the lockout just have to know how.

I'm sorry I don't abuse the leave duty finder much but when I do I have a pretty good reason. I shouldn't have to be forced into staying with a group of people who cannot win a fight after so many tries. And I'm not going to sit and wait for someone else to leave or wait for time to expire.

[Gucci_Charms]

I didn't realize Hell had openings for video game ragequitters JK

I'm sorry I don't abuse the leave duty finder much but when I do I have a pretty good reason. I shouldn't have to be forced into staying with a group of people who cannot win a fight after so many tries. And I'm not going to sit and wait for someone else to leave or wait for time to expire.

^ That. I'm sorry, but I don't think OP or anyone wants to stay with a group of players who cannot beat battle/boss X after so many failed attempts. I usually give up to three chances to beat a boss with a party. After that, I just cut my losses and move on. It's a waste of everyones time.

If there is also a d-bag trying to aggravate the party, I usually don't tolerate that either - nor do I think anyone should, especially if you are playing as a tank or healer.

[Tyl]

I agree actually. I never ragequit myself, the only time i quit is after someone left already.
So i dont understand tanks saying "zomfg dis mage got less HP then me, the tank" *rage quit*

And then tanks also ragequit cuz there is "not enough dps" but not even bothering to mark xO

ans so on ~

So id be glad to see the penalty to go up each time. Starting with 1 hour, ending with a 3day DF ban~
But, add an option to "votekick" and also an option to "votesurrender".

ah and why I mostly critic tanks is: from my view tanks are the ones most RQing also they are the ones who can like instajoin, cuz they're kinda rare. So i dont want to waste 4h queing only cuz the all mighty tank thinks i need 2 hp more so i can do more dmg.

[NovaUltimatum]

Let's consider a possible future scenario:

1. OP suggests DF leaving penalty to be changed to 24 hours.
2. SE reluctantly gives in and changes penalty to 24 hours.
3. People who want to quit now go AFK or troll the dungeon until someone else takes the leaving penalty (or d/c their router. Though I'm not sure if that still gives you the penalty).
4. New thread on forums complaining about number 3.

[Arkista]

Let's consider a possible future scenario:

1. OP suggests DF leaving penalty to be changed to 24 hours.
2. SE reluctantly gives in and changes penalty to 24 hours.
3. People who want to quit now go AFK or troll the dungeon until someone else takes the leaving penalty (or d/c their router. Though I'm not sure if that still gives you the penalty).
4. New thread on forums complaining about number 3.

LOL number 3 is how you get around the lock out. I didn't want to say it, But even if they did add a 24hr lock out and we force DC ourselves SE cannot add a 24hr lockout on us there are just to many connection issues that can happen for them to say "OH you 90k well you still have 24hr lockout" People would Rage so hard.

In short OP there will never ever be a 24hr lockout in a MMO for leaving a group.

[xRitzx]

LOL number 3 is how you get around the lock out. I didn't want to say it, But even if they did add a 24hr lock out and we force DC ourselves SE cannot add a 24hr lockout on us there are just to many connection issues that can happen for them to say "OH you 90k well you still have 24hr lockout" People would Rage so hard.

If you disconnect, I think someone still has to eat the lock out timer. I have never purposefully disconnected but I did have connection issues before and when I logged back in after a disconnect, I would rejoin the same party. On the opposite side, if someone else disconnects and doesn't return, the party has to wait 5 minutes or something for that person to be kicked or someone has to leave and eat the lock out timer. So I don't think there is actually a way for everyone to get around the lock out.

[Arkista]

If you disconnect, I think someone still has to eat the lock out timer. I have never purposefully disconnected but I did have connection issues before and when I logged back in after a disconnect, I would rejoin the same party. On the opposite side, if someone else disconnects and doesn't return, the party has to wait 5 minutes or something for that person to be kicked or someone has to leave and eat the lock out timer. So I don't think there is actually a way for everyone to get around the lock out.

I DCd in Castrum before and took a lil while to get back in and I wasn't in Castrum and I had no lock out timer (it didn't take 15mins to log back in either). If someone DCs in the party and they are kicked you can leave the party w/o lockout cause I've done it. And Force DC is how you get around the lockout.

[xRitzx]

I DCd in Castrum before and took a lil while to get back in and I wasn't in Castrum and I had no lock out timer (it didn't take 15mins to log back in either). If someone DCs in the party and they are kicked you can leave the party w/o lockout cause I've done it. And Force DC is how you get around the lockout.

OK, I agree with that. But you still have to wait for the auto kick when someone DCs. Sometimes it takes a relatively long time like 10 minutes but it's usually just a couple minutes.

[ChriskoOnAnotherLevel]

Sadly OP as bad as the quitters maybe, you are many many times worse.

When you attempt to control peoples free will with punishment, you accomplish nothing.

If people want to quit your party at the drop of a hat, OH well let them leave.

The fact that you even care, shows that you rely too much on DF and have no social structure to fall back on in game.

Maybe you should work on making reliable and skilled friends, so you do not have this problem rather than enacting harsh punishment for people doing whatever they want inside a game.

[Kiayin]

Sadly OP as bad as the quitters maybe, you are many many times worse.

When you attempt to control peoples free will with punishment, you accomplish nothing.

If people want to quit your party at the drop of a hat, OH well let them leave.

The fact that you even care, shows that you rely too much on DF and have no social structure to fall back on in game.

Maybe you should work on making reliable and skilled friends, so you do not have this problem rather than enacting harsh punishment for people doing whatever they want inside a game.

What about the other 7 or so people who waited for more than one hour to get in that dungeon? You've completely wasted their time.

Free will means that you're free to make your own decisions and act on them. It does not mean that you're free to do whatever you want and that there will be no consequences whatsoever. This is a mmorpg. The people you are incoveniencing are very real.