
It's a level 50 dungeon with the purpose of gearing people up. People just starting it should be in high-40s and exactly-50 gear and it's more than doable at that level.When you inspect healer and dps and they are wearing crap lvl 48-49 crafted gear no materia in slots for the purpose of lving it up and melding it , I insta quit . Sorry not 25 mins slugging through trash only to fail on wall because dps is not geared.
P.S ( got nothing against crafted gear but wearing lvl 48-49 gear in a lvl 50 dungeon and not even having sockets filled is just trolling )
Frankly, if you're not running with crafted jewelry at least, you're not getting nearly as much value out of a run, even it takes maybe 5 minutes more.
If you have such stringent gear requirements you shouldn't be duty-findering in the first place.

dude im not talking about jewelry , Im talking about their entire armor set is crafted with no sockets filled . Also in the case I was talking about the player was using a relic . I can understand there is a lot of profit to be made in this situation , I made 20k from a battledance 3 materia when I broke down my ring after I upgraded .It's a level 50 dungeon with the purpose of gearing people up. People just starting it should be in high-40s and exactly-50 gear and it's more than doable at that level.
Frankly, if you're not running with crafted jewelry at least, you're not getting nearly as much value out of a run, even it takes maybe 5 minutes more.
If you have such stringent gear requirements you shouldn't be duty-findering in the first place.
I am so sorry that I (and possibly someone else grouped with me) am wearing tons of crafted gear, trying to get the right materia to meld into my Vanyas or to sell and buy the right ones; even though I plainly have a relic in my hands you'll still leave?When you inspect healer and dps and they are wearing crap lvl 48-49 crafted gear no materia in slots for the purpose of lving it up and melding it , I insta quit . Sorry not 25 mins slugging through trash only to fail on wall because dps is not geared.
The 3rd group, inspect healer , he has fairy , and yep crafted gear again .. I say , I hate fairies and leave .
P.S ( got nothing against crafted gear but wearing lvl 48-49 gear in a lvl 50 dungeon and not even having sockets filled is just trolling )
Honestly, I wonder how good a tank you are; unless you have really undergeared members (lv 49 crafts aren't really undergeared BTW) or just bad DPS (who can certainly be geared; gear isn't a sign of skill after all. Example, running AK with a tank with Titan weapon and DL, but had no idea how to control mob aggro) you should be fine with geared Heals (SCH esp) and Tank.
Also, a good SCH is an amazing asset to a party, especially in AK on the Wall. And in 8-man parties...a SCH is almost a must.
EDIT (with the post ^ ): Honestly, you should stop complaining and just stop using the DF. If you have such strict (and completely unnecessary) rules about who you'll run dungeons with, you'd better start PUG-ing it.
Last edited by PArcher; 11-14-2013 at 05:14 AM.
Seriously? Thankfully, you sir are not on my server. This kind of stereo-typical, elitist attitude is nauseating.I dunno Ive just wasted 45 mins because I had to quit . There is no gear score in this game , but having run AK over 100 times I have a good idea of what gear it takes to dps the wall .
When you inspect healer and dps and they are wearing crap lvl 48-49 crafted gear no materia in slots for the purpose of lving it up and melding it , I insta quit . Sorry not 25 mins slugging through trash only to fail on wall because dps is not geared.
Then I get another group and DPS start pulling everything they can see around the area before first boss , basically 2 groups plus the 2 giants , 1 dies pretty much insta gibbed , and I just leave before wipe . See tanks can pull too , pulled a dick move and quit.
The 3rd group, inspect healer , he has fairy , and yep crafted gear again .. I say , I hate fairies and leave .
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Thank you. Thank you very much. I also wanted to get away from this fail group, but didn't want to take the hit on the lockout. Thank you for taking one for the team.


Thats -your- problem, not theirs. While the gear you mentioned may not be ideal for an quick AK run, it's still doable. If you can't deal with it, then you're far too righteously minded.I dunno Ive just wasted 45 mins because I had to quit . There is no gear score in this game , but having run AK over 100 times I have a good idea of what gear it takes to dps the wall .
When you inspect healer and dps and they are wearing crap lvl 48-49 crafted gear no materia in slots for the purpose of lving it up and melding it , I insta quit . Sorry not 25 mins slugging through trash only to fail on wall because dps is not geared.
Then I get another group and DPS start pulling everything they can see around the area before first boss , basically 2 groups plus the 2 giants , 1 dies pretty much insta gibbed , and I just leave before wipe . See tanks can pull too , pulled a dick move and quit.
The 3rd group, inspect healer , he has fairy , and yep crafted gear again .. I say , I hate fairies and leave .
P.S ( got nothing against crafted gear but wearing lvl 48-49 gear in a lvl 50 dungeon and not even having sockets filled is just trolling )
I have gone into several AKs as the highest geared dps in the group, several times with another dps, or healer, or even tank who arent what I would consider 'great' geared. Do I leave? Nope. Do I give them crap for not being able to afford top tier gear, or having already spent thousands of tomes for DL? Nope again. I suck it up and do my job.
And I have never, once, failed on a run because of it. Yes, there have been times when the wall has taken 2-3 times until people get the hang of it. At times, the reason these people are badly geared is because they haven't ran the dungeon yet to have the opportunity to get the higher tier gear out of their own AF.
And yes, on more than one occasion I've had to single man the wall till its down because others die/fall.
Get over yourself. And anyone else on this thread/forum who think they are God's gift to this game.



When you inspect healer and dps and they are wearing crap lvl 48-49 crafted gear no materia in slots for the purpose of lving it up and melding it , I insta quit . Sorry not 25 mins slugging through trash only to fail on wall because dps is not geared.
The 3rd group, inspect healer , he has fairy , and yep crafted gear again .. I say , I hate fairies and leave .
P.S ( got nothing against crafted gear but wearing lvl 48-49 gear in a lvl 50 dungeon and not even having sockets filled is just trolling )
Knowing your single target and AoE rotations well > good gear every time. I promise that two good dps with relic weapons and NO accessories can down the wall before the bees make an impact.


Is it possible to fail the DPS check at the wall? My primary method of myth farming since I hit 50 was queuing up for AK solo. I started in AF gear, lvl 55 weapon and white lvl 45 accessories (unmelded) and I've never been in a group that's failed the wall more than once (and it was never due to DPS).
You don't have defiance up before the bees spawn, do you?
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