If it is not broken, DO NO FIX IT!

[AlexiaKidd]

And the sole fact that Square Enix is shouldering the costs and not showing the slightest drop in support for the game (quite the contrary, they reinforced the team), is quite the indication that the game isn't even near death. I've seen plenty games near death, and the indications on the developers side are always evident when you know where to look (layoffs, extreme attempts to juice the remaining customerbase as much as possible, and so forth).
None of such indications surfaced for FFXIV. Quite the contrary.

extreme attempts to juice the remaining customerbase as much as possible Free to play until further notice?????

Do you honestly think SE can afford to let this game fail? They will put any money they have to for now to try and make it succeed. If they had to shut this down it would damage SE's rep far worse for future products than what damage has been caused so far, they can't afford to let it fail and will do what they have to to bring it back.

Does that mean that the game is perfect? NO

Here is a better poll, the last question number 11. Would you welcome changes to FINAL FANTASY XIV that would drastically alter the rules already set in Eorzea? 85.2% said yes they want change, I think that is the majority don't you?

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...ed538a52d0fa40

It isn't perfect and there are problems that need fixing, how can you not see this. They removed the ability to see how many players were online purely because people were publishing how many players they were losing and they wanted it to be kept quiet.

I really want this game to succeed and I am sure it will but in order to do so it needs some big change's, a lot of people know that and SE knows that, so how can you pretend like everything is perfect?

[Rjain]

No. Unbalanced means unbalanced. Unenjoyable means unenjyable (and this is very devatable, since I know quite a lot of people that enjoy it, I happen to as well, despite having my fair share of pet peeves). The nearest synonimous to "broken" when relates to games is "Unplayable" and FFXIV is very far from being unplayable.

This paragraph alone demonstrates you have no clue what you're talking about and I am done with you. You can mock my occupation all you want but when you don't even know what a word means from said occupation (and something which has existed in MMOs for years) you clearly have no backbone or defense to even argue. I feel like I'm kicking a puppy now, so I'm going to back off.

[Abriael]

Do you honestly think SE can afford to let this game fail? They will put any money they have to for now to try and make it succeed. If they had to shut this down it would damage SE's rep far worse for future products than what damage has been caused so far, they can't afford to let it fail and will do what they have to to bring it back.

Which is in itself a clear indication of the fact that the game isn't even near death. My point exactly.

Does that mean that the game is perfect? NO

Did you ever see me, even once, argue that the game is anywhere in the same league (or even galaxy) as "perfect"?

It isn't perfect and there are problems that need fixing, how can you not see this. They removed the ability to see how many players were online purely because people were publishing how many players they were losing and they wanted it to be kept quiet.

That's fairly normal. It happens in basically every new MMORPG (I actually personally caused that in AoC, it was rather funny), seeing the numbers dwindling is never nice marketing-wise. But it's no direct indication that the game is "near death" or "failed", it's an indication that the numbers are lowering. And that's it.

you clearly have no backbone or defense to even argue.

because you say so, rite?

[AlexiaKidd]

Abriael they made the game free to play to stop losing any more players because they knew if they made people pay then they would have a hell of a lot less players now.

Look I understand you like the game great so do I but I am not going to pretend everything is alright when it is clearly not, things need to change and lucky for us SE knows that so they will make the changes they need to.

[Abriael]

Abriael they made the game free to play to stop losing any more players because they knew if they made people pay then they would have a hell of a lot less players now.

Look I understand you like the game great so do I but I am not going to pretend everything is alright when it is clearly not, things need to change and lucky for us SE knows that so they will make the changes they need to.

Again, I would love you to quote where I said that I believe that everything is alright. This game has so many things that are not "alright" that's not even funny.
I would infer that believing that SOME things are alright, and that things aren't as terrible as some say, doesn't nearly equate to believing that EVERYTHING is alright.

What I believe is that those "SOME" things that I judge alright, have the potential to be a solid game for the game in the future, and to keep it unique. The past history of MMORPGs post-wow shows that uniqueness is a necessary characteristic to reach any degree of success.

Also, you misinterpreted what I mean with "juicing players". It means that a developer/publisher that knows that a game is near closure, will try to implement revenue sources to juice the last players as much as possible.
IE: "make em pay, many will leave, but some will pay, it'll still be more money that making no one pay".

Turning a pay to play game into a "free until further notice" game, shouldering the whole operational costs for a prolonged period, and especially making the shareholders swallow that pill, means that SE is definitely confident in their ability to turn the game around and transform it into a profitable business.

It's an unprecedented move in the market, and it holds quite a lot of meaning.

[Vicious]

Not related to thread topic but wow.. Abriael take a break man, you've posted in every single page and have been following this thread for a ton of hours.

Everyone has their own opinion and that's great but i get a pretentious smug narcissistic vibe from all your post.

take a break dude.

[Abriael]

Not related to thread topic but wow.. Abriael take a break man, you've posted in every single page and have been following this thread for a ton of hours.

Eh, I'm sick, not much else to do until I can get out of bed.

[Eisah]

I like the armory system, and the physical level (although they should probably do away with the cool down and make it easier to change points, probably by just typing them in).

Other than that, I love that I don't have to carry a completely new set of clothes everytime I switch a job. I have a craft that's at 30 and one that's at 10? They can both use the same gear, even if one won't get all the bonuses. I think as long at the most level-appropriate/class-appropriate gear is the best then it's fine - people who want can invest in gear for each class and others can use gear between different classes that might not necessarily be the best for every one. Personally, I prefer to save my inventory space if I can!

[Aion]

Please do the community a favor and stop posting such ridiculous garbage. A mage has never been able to wear heavy armor and chainmail, sweet lord, what games have you ever played where mages wore mail? I'm dying to know. Did you not play FFXI? From the get go, certain jobs could wear certain armor and were limited by job/class, and that included the melee jobs at level 1. A thief couldn't wear certain things a warrior could, let alone any of the mages.

There's no lack of class uniqueness? Even Yoshi-P has said he feels there isn't any uniqueness! How can any job be unique when you can use any traits from other jobs and essentially make them all the same? Obviously you are in the minority because SE is changing all of this to stop being an issue, the players have spoken in the polls, and we want things changed and are getting them changed. If the game was not broken in mostly every design aspect, Tanaka wouldn't have been replaced, and the game would be doing well now, and most importantly it wouldn't have gotten trashed by every single game review, including those in Japan. Obvious game flaws are obvious, why are you so keen on defending bad decisions?



Look where that got them with 14 when they tried to reinvent the genre, they even said they tried to make the game different on purpose, and it clearly suffered because of that.

Perfect World Online, any job can wear any armor as long its stat sufficient, so we can find PRIEST who naturally use robes,using Light Armor(which is intended to wear by dex-based job such as ARCHER)

[Zenaku]

Perfect World Online, any job can wear any armor as long its stat sufficient, so we can find PRIEST who naturally use robes,using Light Armor(which is intended to wear by dex-based job such as ARCHER)

That a F2P mmo big % of MMO follow the same rule mage can't wear mail only cloth. It's just a rule set in the RPG world every game follow this rule . I just don't look right if a Mage wearing mail when cloth is better only a PLD should wear mail because there more of a wear then anything. Look at red mage they only wear leather and cloth but then again they can somewhat fight also but still not allow to wear mail because it's stilll more about magic then fighting so they need cloth/leather.

I never understood it but it just how things are and should just go on being like it because in some way it make a lot of sense.