If it is not broken, DO NO FIX IT!

[Xzen]

I personally like the system as it is. Not all of the classes get the full potential of the abilities from other classes. For example my friend leveled up conjurer and gladiator and he did not modify his numbers in mind. With cure 2 he was doing 400 on his conjurer but on gladiator it was only getting 200.

To try to appeal to people who want to have the different classes and not have to re allocate all of their points I think a type of memory system should be put in place where the system will remember that on Conjurer I had 100 intelligence and that on Gladiator I had 100 vitality.

This is basically what they are headed for but with the Physical level removed.

[Zkieve]

i wont try to discuss it further if you guys fail to see the point.

[Rjain]

As an avid player of Final Fantasy XI and Now Final Fantasy XIV I have appreciated the changes that have been made to improve the game play but I do no like the way the community is going with changing the core system of the game which was never a problem. As the old adage says "If it is not broken don't fix it."

If there wasn't a problem the game wouldn't be on the verge of death due to the extremely low population count and people quitting every day.

First The Armory System, I enjoy having the option of wearing whatever gear for whatever class at whatever level, given yes there are down points to this but it allows me to do a few things that I enjoy.

I believe the majority of players voted to have restricted gear. I don't think they're changing current gear, just future gear. This gives players more incentive to play to reach a higher rank with that class to get the gear.

Second The point allotment system. I LIKE having a physical level, this makes the difference between a casual player who plays one class and a hardcore player who does many.

The physical level system is currently broken and useless. The stats currently do not make a significant difference, and there's less customization that you may think. Having magic on a war class for example is usually not anywhere close to as effective as a magic class. You'd basically put on cure and sacrifice and that's about it. Anything else is a waste of time and you won't be as effective if you didn't put all those stats into war class stats.

YOU are not a game designer you do not know the ideal behind how they wanted the game.

Yes I am.

In closing, game is broken. It needs to be fixed.

[Abriael]

If there wasn't a problem the game wouldn't be on the verge of death due to the extremely low population count and people quitting every day.

Game on the "verge of death?" yay, the exaggeration.

The physical level system is currently broken and useless. The stats currently do not make a significant difference, and there's less customization that you may think. Having magic on a war class for example is usually not anywhere close to as effective as a magic class. You'd basically put on cure and sacrifice and that's about it. Anything else is a waste of time and you won't be as effective if you didn't put all those stats into war class stats.

What an extreme overseimplification. No, thanks. I have plenty spells on my gladiator that aren't just cure or sacrifice, and I use them regularly, and effectively.
The fact that you can't think out of the box about spells usage, doesn't mean other can't as well.

Yes I am.

And of course we're supposed to believe you.

In closing, game is broken. It needs to be fixed.

for someone that claims to be a "game developer" you have a very elastic idea of the definition of "broken".

Also, the fact that some aspects of the game need to be fixed/polished/improved doesn't mean that the game is broken, nor it means that the physical level/armoury system are between those aspects.

[Rjain]

If you cannot see what is clearly in front of you it is not my fault you are walking blind. I don't even need to argue anything. Take a look at the game, the poll responses, and compare the game to when it came out. Some servers are almost dead. The ones that are not dead are half dead. Clearly, those rose-tinted goggles of yours are distorting the facts.

[Abriael]

If you cannot see what is clearly in front of you it is not my fault you are walking blind. I don't even need to argue anything. Take a look at the game, the poll responses, and compare the game to when it came out. Some servers are almost dead. The ones that are not dead are half dead. Clearly, those rose-tinted goggles of yours are distorting the facts.

Yeaaah "the fact that you disagree with me is because you wear rose-tinted glasses"

I look around myself and I see plenty people. I see plenty people from the first two months coming back to check the game, and being impressed by the improvement they see.

You can spell your doom and gloom as much as you like, but the game is already starting to pick up. Given your tones, I think that makes you angry

[Rjain]

Yeaaah "the fact that you disagree with me is because you wear rose-tinted glasses"

I look around myself and I see plenty people. I see plenty people from the first two months coming back to check the game, and being impressed by the improvement they see.

You can spell your doom and gloom as much as you like, but the game is already starting to pick up. Given your tones, I think that makes you angry

I am all for the success for this game but this game is not in a satisfactory condition. The majority of the players feel that, the development team feels that, the executive team feels that, and the stockholders feel that. That is enough evidence that this game is broken. Sprout what sarcasm and opinions you will, you can't get rid of the cold hard facts.

[Abriael]

I am all for the success for this game but this game is not in a satisfactory condition. The majority of the players feel that, the development team feels that, the executive team feels that, and the stockholders feel that. That is enough evidence that this game is broken. Sprout what sarcasm and opinions you will, you can't get rid of the cold hard facts.

And of course you can speak for the majority, right?

And by the way, there's a BIG difference between "not in a satisfactory condition" and "broken" or "on the verge of death".

A professional game developer normally knows that

[Rjain]

And of course you can speak for the majority, right?

And by the way, there's a BIG difference between "not in a satisfactory condition" and "broken" or "on the verge of death".

A professional game developer normally knows that

I'm sure you know quite a bit about game developers.

This game costs millions of dollars to operate. The amount of money lost on this game is significant. Last year a little after the game was released SE lost $26 million in one day in stocks and XIV was blamed for that. Although the amount recovered over time, many stockholders have been dropping out due to this game's performance.

Broken means unbalanced and/or unenjoyable. I'm not too sure what it means to you. The game is unbalanced. The "verge of death" is indeed true. If major changes do not happen which will bring a large quantity of players back within the next few months to a year, and the PS3 release is not a success (I'm personally sure it will be), FFXIV may very well be unplugged.

Checking your lodestone I see you started when the game was released. I'm not sure what your server is like but if it was anything like mine every camp you'd go to and every city had several dozen to a couple hundred players at once. Everywhere was completely packed. Now, you'd be lucky to see 15 people at any one camp. The only camps I really see people at are at grinding camps and I only see about 20-30 people maximum. Limsa and Gridania are almost completely dead and Ul'dah has about 60-100 people in it. From what I can tell, Besaid is one of the most populated servers.

Those numbers are low. This game had several hundred thousand players registered (above 600,000 I believe) and it has dropped down to 17,000-30,000 active players maximum.

I'm afraid it's no dice.

Edit: Oh yeah, and poll results.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...16083b634f7678

There's your majority.

[Totobi]

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...d5253e4362e17f

Just thought i'd link this.