If it is not broken, DO NO FIX IT!

[Zenaku]

@Amsai problem is the system if halfass and that why i think it does not work if they took the time to fix it ok but many players don't like it they want to have specified role in a party ok you are a tank that all you can do type of thing. Most ppl hate that fact that there no real FFXI names in the game beside lancer and bird in the storyline which make a lot of hardcore players fan sad. I know for one would like ff names over what we have now i don't mind with any system i just think specified class system give more of a storyline with gear,quest and overall gameplay vs hybrid system. Just make a few class that can do it like Red mage which is jack of all. as long as they don't make the mistake how they did it in FFXI where RED mage was useless in fighting because of lack of real dmg with swords.


Also do you know how hard is to balance a hybird system vs specified ? i don't want every big update to out balance a hybrid and oh now i can't tank? oh ok next big update oh shit now i can't DPS? when in specified they can just make you tank better or suck at it more but you still can tank matter what they do too it.

[Xzen]

@Amsai problem is the system if halfass and that why i think it does not work if they took the time to fix it ok but many players don't like it they want to have specified role in a party ok you are a tank that all you can do type of thing. Most ppl hate that fact that there no real FFXI names in the game beside lancer and bird in the storyline which make a lot of hardcore players fan sad. I know for one would like ff names over what we have now i don't mind with any system i just think specified class system give more of a storyline with gear,quest and overall gameplay vs hybrid system. Just make a few class that can do it like Red mage which is jack of all. as long as they don't make the mistake how they did it in FFXI where RED mage was useless in fighting because of lack of real dmg with swords.

You lost me again. The traditional names are unneeded and don't fit the classes or world. This change would be superfluous. Being able to mix and match abilities is one of the few good things about this game. It's not like you can slap cure 2 on a Gladiator and expect to go main healer on an NM hunt. All it does is increase your survivability as a tank by giving you the option to heal yourself. Practically making the Gladiator with cure 2 a paladin.

[Lebannen]

My suggestion is to keep the armory system, but add armor which gets a bonus if you have the corresponding class equiped, and if you don't you get a penalty.

[edgar131]

My suggestion is to keep the armory system, but add armor which gets a bonus if you have the corresponding class equiped, and if you don't you get a penalty.

There already is a penalty for equipping armor that isn't meant for your class...

[Ablongman]

I can agree that out of the tens of glaring problems with this game, this one ranks pretty low on my wishlist. For instance, there's the glaring lack of social integration (the friends list is hidden behind like 4 clicks in a laggy menu and has no notifications), the abysmal chat interface that's too busy being flooded with combat messages to serve as an actual chatbox, the problematic targeting system, the lack any semblance of consistency with stat weights, the lack of visual combat cues that don't require you to stare at a chatbox to notice what a mob is casting... Oh, and the lack of actual content other than a story quest.

Yeah. I think class renaming/retooling to classic standards can wait.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I agree many rpg have mage types in plate armor. Clarics in Aion can use heavy gear sets and are a dd white mage. Look at al the WoW classes and their gear. Two worlds 1 and 2 is another rpg that mage types can ware what they want. I had a guy in full plate with a staff casting spells.

In DCUO same thing everyone is hybird of a melee caster. My choice set up was a flying monk fight tank. And I liked it. They should make clases feel different but also allow to set abilities from other clases. If I wanted to be a pug who can cast fire and have a cure I should be able to.

As i said min/max is not always the right plan of action. And is not always efficient. Everyone working together as a team helps and every little bit helps. Point of mmo or video games in general is to have fun. It should never be about worring if you are "good" or not. I stop playing in parties in ffxi because of all the min/maxing. Gear is so hard to get in the game now and I was afraid of not being good enough and being kicked.

[viion]

This should be SE's motto, they breaking things all the time

[Sephr]

This should be SE's motto, they breaking things all the time

Constructive. Feel free to head back to Core whenever you feel like it.

[AlexiaKidd]

If you think that you won't have elitists in this game because of how it is designed you are very wrong. You think it was bad in FFXI where you had to have 1 or 2 classes levelled half way for certain sub jobs to be accepted for your chosen job, that will be nothing compared to what it will be like in this. Imagine now you have to level a lot more classes to cap just to have those certain abilities to make your class above average and not be considered gimp.

[Selamis]

Gear was never really hard to get in XI though, outside of King drops. If anything it was just a matter of rare/ex gear being bad drop rate that took a while to get that put people off. Most people could get by just fine with AH bought gear as long as they knew how to gear properly though. I never had issues with melee rdms as long as they did what they were in the party to do as well, debuff/haste/cure, but if they didn't do that and just wanted to melee, then yea, I'd replace them too.