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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer View Post
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    There will be no under geared players in the Duty Finder since they're also adding an item level check before queuing. MVP lets the party pick whichever player was most helpful/performed best and rewards them for it.

    How exactly can it be used to bully?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    There will be no under geared players in the Duty Finder since they're also adding an item level check before queuing. MVP lets the party pick whichever player was most helpful/performed best and rewards them for it.

    How exactly can it be used to bully?
    Just because there is a minimum iLevel requirement doesn't mean a player can't say: "You are not in the best gear so you automatically didn't contribute as much as everyone else in the dungeon and therefore will not get my MVP vote."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curagaja View Post
    Just because there is a minimum iLevel requirement doesn't mean a player can't say: "You are not in the best gear so you automatically didn't contribute as much as everyone else in the dungeon and therefore will not get my MVP vote."
    Yeah and they'd be within their right to not give you their vote.

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    Let's not give anyone a gold star sticker because some kids that didn't measure up will feel neglected because they didn't get a gold star sticker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    There will be no under geared players in the Duty Finder since they're also adding an item level check before queuing. MVP lets the party pick whichever player was most helpful/performed best and rewards them for it.

    How exactly can it be used to bully?
    What you, me and SE will consider under geared, will not be the same as the majority of players who thinks only relic and full darklight. The majority of people have labeled most people in AK gear as undergeared. This should not be the case, in fact if someone in AK gear can play well they should automaticly deserve the MVP, but that will not be the case, instead youll have people who look at your gear and go your at the bottom of the gear pool and dont deserve mvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer View Post
    What you, me and SE will consider under geared, will not be the same as the majority of players who thinks only relic and full darklight. The majority of people have labeled most people in AK gear as undergeared. This should not be the case, in fact if someone in AK gear can play well they should automaticly deserve the MVP, but that will not be the case, instead youll have people who look at your gear and go your at the bottom of the gear pool and dont deserve mvp.
    #assumptionsbeforeMVPisevenreleased
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    #assumptionsbeforeMVPisevenreleased
    think of all the people who wanted a boot system and the atmosphere in reverant troll. The amount of players who would boot you for AK gear or half darklight or no relic is huge, even from posts on the subject, everyone who wantd the boot feature was because of player gear minorly unacceptable, which is why SE (making the right choice) did not put in a boot system. But these people who would boot you because of gear, you can assume would not vote for anyone as mvp who did not meet thier rediculous standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer View Post
    Then that would foster an atmosphere of solo playing only (running dutys without friends) so you can get a reward, which is another reason why you shouldnt have this system. If you cannot get a reward if you run with friends, that too is ANTI-community. Why have a system like this at all then?
    If you look at it from a different perspective, how about me not running with friends, so I can make MORE friends? Just sayin...

    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer View Post
    think of all the people who wanted a boot system and the atmosphere in reverant troll. The amount of players who would boot you for AK gear or half darklight or no relic is huge, even from posts on the subject, everyone who wantd the boot feature was because of player gear minorly unacceptable, which is why SE (making the right choice) did not put in a boot system. But these people who would boot you because of gear, you can assume would not vote for anyone as mvp who did not meet thier rediculous standards.
    We are not getting a boot feature. We are getting a MVP voting feature, which as has been mentioned, can't really be rigged or abused. The worst you can get is not getting the vote, the best you can get is everyone voted for you. It's a no-loss situation. It's not like you are losing points for not being voted. Voting does NOT kick you out of a dungeon, or suddenly make it so you can't roll on any loot. As has also been mentioned, you can't vote for friends - so people who go partying in Mor Dhona would most likely not be able to vote for one another either. This is Square's way of encouraging people to go out to meet, talk, and play with new people, or even people from other servers. What would really make this feature become great would be the addition of a cross-server friend list, and/or cross-server DF party.

    It's the same as in sports. Taking football (some of you might call it soccer) as an example, you're not going to benching Messi because he did not get Man of the Match for one match...

    Also this is all speculation. Perhaps, wait till it comes out first, and then judge it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer View Post
    What you, me and SE will consider under geared, will not be the same as the majority of players who thinks only relic and full darklight. The majority of people have labeled most people in AK gear as undergeared. This should not be the case, in fact if someone in AK gear can play well they should automaticly deserve the MVP, but that will not be the case, instead youll have people who look at your gear and go your at the bottom of the gear pool and dont deserve mvp.
    If you parse lower due to worse gear, or die more due to less HP, or are otherwise a detriment when compared with the rest of the group then you're not going to get MVP anyway.

    MVP stands for Most Valuable Player - it's an award for performing exceptionally. That's it. If someone doesn't feel you performed exceptionally - then they won't vote for you and that is their prerogative or pejorative.
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    I think this will be a great system. There are going to be exploits and naysayers to any new thing introduced, but I can see this being much more beneficial as people will learn how to play their roles to become better members. MVP FTW!
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    I have no idea what is OP rambling about. It's bullying that you don't get a voted for MVP?

    Man... I knew the world is going straight to hell and people get offended by everything, but has it really gone this bad? If you can't be the special snowflake that gets a vote you get offended?

    Welcome to 2013 and 1st world problems. We really need that WWIII to bring people back to reality.
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