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    Well I guess me and the 40+ members of my FC are just insanely lucky to have god like connections because we never seem to experience this so called "lag". There is only one particular attack that EVER has hit me when I've been outside the void zone, and thats the mold circular AoE the first boss of WP uses. I routinely go weeks without getting hit by an avoidable mechanic on titan (just helping out friends and what not), yet I experience the same .3 delay we all experience, and the same animation lock we all experience, yet I don't get hit by stuff. Hmm, strange. As if some grainy shitty .gif image is concrete proof of their being lag. If you haven't adapted your playstyle to account for the slight delay, then I hate to sound like a jackass, but maybe you just aren't that good? The poster above just sounds like a bad player, I mean, how are you working on coil but can't kill titan? Titan is pretty laughable because the fight is the same thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER. If you learn the rotation, even with a half second delay, you should be able to dodge shit by moving preemptively.
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    @Lex Lugar
    Never said I can't beat Titan, did months ago. Go in and help others kill it every week. SE has admitted to the lag issue. But since you can't read my post, I guess you don't read their posts either. I am happy you and your friends don't have the issue a lot of others do. You do know people play on different PCs and on different connections. Someone playing on top internet and a i7 will prob lag less then someone on a lower speed connection and a dual core. Comparing people on an even playing field and using blanket statements is total ignorance on your part. There are millions of variables that go into lag or DC issues. Some get 90000 a lot, others haven't had it once. Some lag on some fights, while others don't. The lack of IQ it takes to put lag issues on the player and it is their fault they might lag is laughable.
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    @OP
    You are right, and I fail at feeding the Troll. This is the only issue other then only 4 bosses in Coil that I have with the game right now. it is rare but when it hits ya it sucks. haven't gotten hit by the knock off ability with the lag but the plumes have gotten me when I am clear on the other side of the platform.
    But Titan is the only fight I get this so I can't QQ too much. Coil has been fun we cleared Turn 4 last week and Turn 5 looks to be fun, so overall the game has great content. I like that SE has addressed it and is probably working on it if they can. maybe they just need to add more data centers. Having just the one is prob why some people lag more often if they are farther from it then others.
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    Tirion Crey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lex_Luger View Post
    Well I guess me and the 40+ members of my FC are just insanely lucky to have god like connections because we never seem to experience this so called "lag". There is only one particular attack that EVER has hit me when I've been outside the void zone, and thats the mold circular AoE the first boss of WP uses. I routinely go weeks without getting hit by an avoidable mechanic on titan (just helping out friends and what not), yet I experience the same .3 delay we all experience, and the same animation lock we all experience, yet I don't get hit by stuff. Hmm, strange. As if some grainy shitty .gif image is concrete proof of their being lag. If you haven't adapted your playstyle to account for the slight delay, then I hate to sound like a jackass, but maybe you just aren't that good? The poster above just sounds like a bad player, I mean, how are you working on coil but can't kill titan? Titan is pretty laughable because the fight is the same thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER. If you learn the rotation, even with a half second delay, you should be able to dodge shit by moving preemptively.
    God...I'm getting tired of people like you. Players having to "pre-emptively" act to counter bad game design/bad servers does not mean that all of a sudden it doesn't exist. I adjusted my play to minimize the "danger" of that shit...doesn't mean that just cause I can avoid almost anything with 100% certainty...that it isn't a problem. You even said so yourself...you adapted your playstyle...so this is reason enough for you to claim the lag/delayed server response doesn't exist...you contradict yourself on your own...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    God...I'm getting tired of people like you. Players having to "pre-emptively" act to counter bad game design/bad servers does not mean that all of a sudden it doesn't exist. I adjusted my play to minimize the "danger" of that shit...doesn't mean that just cause I can avoid almost anything with 100% certainty...that it isn't a problem. You even said so yourself...you adapted your playstyle...so this is reason enough for you to claim the lag/delayed server response doesn't exist...you contradict yourself on your own...
    Except many don't pre-empt the attack. I have ~180ms and I don't run early for Weights on Titan, I dodge them when I see them. And I do it fine. Again, it doesn't change the fact our positions are polled ever 0.3 seconds instead of more often, but don't assume the people making the claim of being fine are having to pre-empt and move before the attack shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Except many don't pre-empt the attack. I have ~180ms and I don't run early for Weights on Titan, I dodge them when I see them. And I do it fine. Again, it doesn't change the fact our positions are polled ever 0.3 seconds instead of more often, but don't assume the people making the claim of being fine are having to pre-empt and move before the attack shows.
    I wasn't refering to moving before the attack shows in specific. I personally dodge shit through forcing the client to update my position by moving out of whatever is targetting me and the moment I'm out I use a skill, whatever it may be, a buff, an attack whatever. That's how I dodge stuff.

    PS: EU player here and it works just fine...still doesn't change that this is poor design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    I wasn't refering to moving before the attack shows in specific. I personally dodge shit through forcing the client to update my position by moving out of whatever is targetting me and the moment I'm out I use a skill, whatever it may be, a buff, an attack whatever. That's how I dodge stuff.

    PS: EU player here and it works just fine...still doesn't change that this is poor design.
    My point was, is that "pre-emptively" means moving before it shows. I was telling you that many who don't have issues, do not have to do so. You're the one making the claim that people "not having issues" are having to move before the indicator shows, it's quite clear in your post.
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