[To the Devs] We need content like in FFXI called Abyssea

[Luvbunny]

I loved FFXI I played it for over 7 years but please no. Abyssea made ffxi into a joke. I would hate to see it in any way shape or form in ffxiv. FATE grinding makes lvling to easy already.

Abyssea did not make FFXI into a joke. It lets EVERYONE try ALL jobs to 99 fast and put all people on the same playing field on endgame. You still need to practice those said jobs, you still need to know how to play those said jobs, you still need to gear those jobs. And yes you still need to farm and practice those jobs in Abyssea environment. Getting to 99 in a few days or in a few years, it matters not, at the end of the day, you still need to know how to play it.

Knowing how to play at endgame content VS party contents are two different things. Old school party set up is for idiots, killing crab or colibri bazilion times does not make you a better player..... Trying to low man or solo those Abyssea NM will force you to know your job, or you will wipe (this is when level cap was still 80-90, at that time, Abyssea was challenging, you need alliance or full party to advance).

Doing the same DUMB old school party grind in FF14 does not make you a better player. FATE or no fate, killing gazillion normal mobs will make you worse players. The only way you learn your jobs and roles in FF14 is by spamming the same said events (primals) or dungeons over and over and learning the bosses moves and perfecting your rotation. You will not learn your jobs by killing trash mobs gazilion times.... At least you will learn a few things when you kill the Notorious Monster FATE, some of these NMs are a weaker version of dungeon bosses.

[matic]

lol abyssea was a shot in the arm that rejuvenated a dying game. whether or not you liked it is immaterial. it put asses in seats.

[Swishytail]

Comparing the old level 75 caps days to the Abyssea days, I can easily say I had 1000% more fun during
the 75 days. I quit before 80 cap, came back to the 99 cap. I got 99 in one day with gear.

Needless to say, that kept me entertained for about 2 weeks, then I quit again.

[Ralemont]

Comparing the old level 75 caps days to the Abyssea days, I can easily say I had 1000% more fun during
the 75 days. I quit before 80 cap, came back to the 99 cap. I got 99 in one day with gear.

Needless to say, that kept me entertained for about 2 weeks, then I quit again.

If you quit before the 80 cap and after the 99 cap, then you weren't even playing during the Abyssea days.

But I wouldn't be surprised if the game was crap again during the lv99 days. Once VNM was introduced it was back to having a game director who had no freaking clue how to create content.

[Swishytail]

If you quit before the 80 cap and after the 99 cap, then you weren't even playing during the Abyssea days.

But I wouldn't be surprised if the game was crap again during the lv99 days. Once VNM was introduced it was back to having a game director who had no freaking clue how to create content.

Well, when I came back to 99 cap I did Abyssea is what I mean. Apparently I caught the tail-end of it.
I just thought it was a bit ridiculous that I could AFK for 10 hours and hit max level. Lol.

[Kazamoto]

Lets add the content that cost XI 60% of their subs... good idea.

That is a prime example of what not to do.

Many things that should be taken from XI... abysea is the last thing that should be.

People keep saying this like its a bad thing.

If running game servers costs X dollars.

Running FFXI and FFXIV costs 2X dollars.

If FFXI makes Y dollars, and FFXIV makes Z dollars.

Motivating players to move to 14 from 11 makes sense.
Using positive reinforcement makes it easier.

Because!

Y + Z - X > Y + Z - 2X

[Phe]

get the OP on your ignore list, since he's opening troll threads every day.

why even answer to that?
how can people not...
i mean how obvious...

*facepalm*

[Haruka-Akemi]

Well actually fates are like abyssea but waaaaaay boring since they are random pop
Lol

[Rochetm]

Yeah abbysea sucked... they took away tedious leveling and gear grinding...

How dare they!

[realmreborn]

Yeah abbysea sucked... they took away tedious leveling and gear grinding...

How dare they!

i think we should get loot same way we did in abyssea and they cancel mytho cap or remove the currency we farm monsters that drop rare pop and kill NM for loot