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  1. #21
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    AngelMoon's Avatar
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    To the OP... no.
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  2. #22
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    Lalah Elakha
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    Abyssea and Fate is the same thing. Hence why you see the same people dissing them both.

    It is large scale parties enjoying fast paced content. Compared to those stuck in old school style of killing a crab for 5 minutes for 260 exp.
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    No no no no no no no no no no no Never again No.
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  4. #24
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    Infernia Heart
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 87
    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    Abyssea and Fate is the same thing. Hence why you see the same people dissing them both.

    It is large scale parties enjoying fast paced content. Compared to those stuck in old school style of killing a crab for 5 minutes for 260 exp.
    Not quite, Abyssea was more or less morons paying people to stand their character AFK while everyone else got exp for them. or simply AFking 90% of the time. in FATES you actually do have to do stuff and move. Also P. brew. which was instant no thinking mode.

    I think even the devs admitted Abyssea was a mistake for FFXI as it killed it. and that started my downward spiral of bordem for that game. so all kinds of No for that in this game. quite an insult to even suggest putting something like that in this game when the level cap is just currently 50.
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  5. #25
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    Ralemont Eisenzahn
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkwood View Post
    yes because abyssea was soooo great, get a clue man Abyssea sucked XI lost 200k subs when it hit. Please just stop this crap. If the Devs take anything they need Salvage, Sky, Sea, Nyzul and Dynamis type events and thats it.
    Oh it was Abyssea's fault, was it?



    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Vision_of_Abyssea

    As you can see, the subs were in sharp decline before the first Abyssea even hit. Where are you getting your numbers about post-Abyssea, pre-VNM (when the game started sucking again)? Because for every thread from HNM fanboys mad that they couldn't exploit people through pyramid-scheme shells anymore, there were people who had previously quit returning because they heard that:

    1. There was no longer job discrimination, nor a need for manaburns or colibri burns, and

    2. Small one-to-two party LSes could complete 99% of Abyssea content.

    So tell me again how Abyssea "ruined" FFXI?
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  6. #26
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    realmreborn's Avatar
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    Big Butcher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralemont View Post
    Oh it was Abyssea's fault, was it?



    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Vision_of_Abyssea

    As you can see, the subs were in sharp decline before the first Abyssea even hit. Where are you getting your numbers about post-Abyssea, pre-VNM (when the game started sucking again)? Because for every thread from HNM fanboys mad that they couldn't exploit people through pyramid-scheme shells anymore, there were people who had previously quit returning because they heard that:

    1. There was no longer job discrimination, nor a need for manaburns or colibri burns, and

    2. Small one-to-two party LSes could complete 99% of Abyssea content.

    So tell me again how Abyssea "ruined" FFXI?
    i love smart people
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  7. #27
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    Ralemont Eisenzahn
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    With all that being said I think FATE exping and Abyssea exping do have some negative parallels, namely that it's much easier to level without actually learning to do your job. Hopefully after 2.1 dungeons give more EXP, however that won't necessarily solve long queue times for DPS (though perhaps some of the other buffs for tanks etc in doing dungeons will assist there).
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  8. #28
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Abyssea is what made 70% of the game pointless. No thanks
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralemont View Post
    So tell me again how Abyssea "ruined" FFXI?
    I personally liked Abyssea however you can not argue (or at least should not) that Abyssea took 6 years of players' hard work and time to get gear for the long time cap of 75 and essentially wiped it out in a matter of weeks.
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    Sorry but NO Never No Thanks. Abyssea ruined FFXI.
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