[To the Devs] We need content like in FFXI called Abyssea

[Reiterpallasch]

My favorite part was when you linked a picture that stops showing data before abyssea was even released.

There was no longer job discrimination

Aside from the fact that if you weren't a WAR MNK or WHM nobody wanted you, yeah sure no job discrimination at all.

[Ralemont]

My favorite part was when you linked a picture that stops showing data before abyssea was even released.

Someone claimed Abyssea ruined FFXI and caused 200k subs lost. Another claimed 60% of subs were lost due to Abyssea. I linked a graph that showed a loss of 150k subs in the span of a year and a half BEFORE Abyssea, because it's the only graph and/or sub numbers I could find. If you'd like to show numbers about how many subs were lost during Abyssea, I'd love to see it. But we all know neither you nor the posters above have any evidence for this.

In any case, what the graph does show is that even if Abyssea lost another 150k subs during its run, it was doing just as well (or just as badly) as the crappy content released before that caused the general decline of the populace. Have fun showing Abyssea "ruined" the game and led to its subscription decline.

Seriously, anybody have any data at all?

Aside from the fact that if you weren't a WAR MNK or WHM nobody wanted you, yeah sure no job discrimination at all.

I was talking about exping, but even talking about seal mobs you are wrong. Every group needed at the very least BLM and BLU for procs, and THF was often quite useful as evasion tank/TH. Don't forget that there were often seal NMs that were preferably kite-burned, and I often used SCH for that. Additionally, seal mobs (and +2 mobs) dropped multiple different types of tokens, meaning it was easy (combined with the ease of leveling new jobs) to find willing members, if you didn't have close friends in an LS.

But sure, for the tough fights not every job was welcome; many physical DD for example. Perfect balance resulting in all classes being equally welcome is impossible, but Abyssea did a better job of it than any other FFXI endgame event I can think of.

[Vydos]

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Abyssea

its more fun than fate spam

and if you guys dont have content for FFXIV just take the ones from FFXI and add them to FFXIV it will keep us busy for long time

Abyssea killed FFXI for me. So I'd rather not see it in any form or way inside FFXIV:ARR

[realmreborn]

Abyssea killed FFXI for me. So I'd rather not see it in any form or way inside FFXIV:ARR

which do u prefer abyssea or FATE spam

[Vydos]

which do u prefer abyssea or FATE spam

At the moment, FATE spam. Because you don't have abyssea exp parties that take you from low levels to cap in record time. And at least FATE is an option to use for leveling. I alternate it with dungeon runs and find it more enjoyable than abyssea.

Even taking out the leveling in it. It was hard to start doing abyssea once I stopped playing for a while and everyone had their buffs unlocked. Long story short, I didn't like how abyssea came in and made most content before it completely useless.

[realmreborn]

At the moment, FATE spam. Because you don't have abyssea exp parties that take you from low levels to cap in record time. And at least FATE is an option to use for leveling. I alternate it with dungeon runs and find it more enjoyable than abyssea.

Even taking out the leveling in it. It was hard to start doing abyssea once I stopped playing for a while and everyone had their buffs unlocked. Long story short, I didn't like how abyssea came in and made most content before it completely useless.

ok atleast they can add the other expansions from FFXI like sky and sea

[Vydos]

ok atleast they can add the other expansions from FFXI like sky and sea

Now that, I'm 100% behind it lol. Especially sky. And I'm hoping we'll get a future zone in the sky as well. Both sky and sea are to this day, still my most favorite zones. Then again...all CoP zones were damn awesome.

[Maxthunder]

As much as I like Xi the one thing that I dont ever wanna see them take from XI is abyssea, that expansion ruined the game.

[Accolades]

Abyssea killed FFXI for me. So I'd rather not see it in any form or way inside FFXIV:ARR

Its better then doing these dungeons over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. I cant understand why people like doing that and why people just want more dungeons.

[Xatsh]

Lets add the content that cost XI 60% of their subs... good idea.

That is a prime example of what not to do.

Many things that should be taken from XI... abysea is the last thing that should be.