Accuracy, a poorly designed stat

[EasymodeX]

So the morale is that you must equip DL when fighting odin/behe?

Why are you so fixated on DL? You could use i90 slots with accuracy for Odin. Or crafted gear.

You really think it doesn't deserve a change anywhere?

Not necessarily, but it depends on what is alleged to be the problem. As I said, I'm not against accuracy being removed wholesale since a binary "get X stat minimum" is obnoxious.

However, the components of your argument are/were off-base. You first assumed that the only purpose for acc is Coil, creating an arbitrary link along the lines of "DL is required for Coil only".

Second, you seem to be very fixated on Darklight for some unknown reason. If you're saying that Darklight has too few non-acc options for players who choose not to do Coil (or simply to mix and match pieces in general), and that Primals need higher acc requirements (less than Coil) that's one thing.

However, complaining that "Darklight has accuracy!" is irrelevant.

I just can't set my mind on why it's a random arbitrary number there without any sense of progression gearwise.

It's not random and arbitrary. It's based on the mob level. Higher level mobs and higher-tier content require more acc. That's pretty logical. Not necessarily perfect game design by any stretch, but it is coherent and legitimate.

Very rarely will i90 will have more accuracy which is just contradictory to progress.

This is delusional. i90 has as much accuracy as i70. It's all over the place -- and for same slots with the same priority, i90 has more raw acc than i70 gear.

I'm sitting here on my DRG with mostly i90 gear at 502 accuracy, and I'm trying to reduce it. I can't even upgrade my belt from Allagan to BiS Myth because it will increase my accuracy.

[Alzithe]

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Hmm... for bard the maximum you can get is 481 with the allagan helmet.
Both allagan nad myth boots don't provide ACC, neither does the belt or neck and you can only use one allagan ring, thus full i90 has a max of 480~ for bards. Can't get any higher. Might be some class issue but still it's an issue. The point of some gear being totally discarded for some classes still stands.

@ Scella

Your analogies don't fit well since this is a game. In real life lacoste gear isn't better than gap...
You don't get my point, I have a set I'm aiming for, it has the needed ACC, the problem can be BYPASSED, but it's just going around it.
Some 90 pieces won't see the light of the sun ever because of how some random pieces has and don't have ACC. Might as well just eliminate them from the game right?

[EasymodeX]

Hmm... for bard the maximum you can get is 481 with the allagan helmet.
Both allagan nad myth boots don't provide ACC, neither does the belt or neck and you can only use one allagan ring, thus full i90 has a max of 480~ for bards. Can't get any higher. Might be some class issue but still it's an issue. The point of some gear being totally discarded for some classes still stands.

So, I just spent about 2 minutes on xivdb and it looks like:

weapon, earring, helm, legs, chest, ring, bracelet, hands

For Bards can all get acc, for a total of 509 accuracy, giving you about 27-37 points to shuffle for higher DPS stats.

Edit: Actually I summed the wrong helm, so you can get up to 515 accuracy. All that assuming I didn't fat finger or eyeball something wrong, since as I said I spent about 2 minutes looking through the items.

[Alzithe]

So, I just spent about 2 minutes on xivdb and it looks like:

weapon, earring, helm, legs, chest, ring, bracelet, hands

For Bards can all get acc, for a total of 509 accuracy, giving you about 27-37 points to shuffle for higher DPS stats.

Edit: Actually I summed the wrong helm, so you can get up to 515 accuracy. All that assuming I didn't fat finger or eyeball something wrong, since as I said I spent about 2 minutes looking through the items.

You're right on the items but not on the numbers. I think you might be putting higher starting ACC because we can't get that high, only with darklight. There no way I can reach 515 if I'm missing just a few pieces.

[Sezuel]

Why are you so fixated on DL? You could use i90 slots with accuracy for Odin. Or crafted gear.

Why? because DL has the highest ACC by far when it is technically 2 tiers of gear below BiS and yet seems to have the highest ACC out of ANYHING

However, the components of your argument are/were off-base. You first assumed that the only purpose for acc is Coil, creating an arbitrary link along the lines of "DL is required for Coil only".

Basically ... it is ONLY for Coils ... if you are reaching the typical HP requirements people have for titan to not be considered a carry then your acc is well over his necessary and other than Titan, coils is the only current content you need to actually worry about it as stated by another, Odin/Behemoth is not a matter of missing it is a matter of not actually using the ability in the first place as there are usually upwards of 10-15 full 8 man groups fighting him which really messes with NPC loading.

It's not random and arbitrary. It's based on the mob level. Higher level mobs and higher-tier content require more acc. That's pretty logical. Not necessarily perfect game design by any stretch, but it is coherent and legitimate.

where's your proof? I've yet to see anything in the game that says the lvl 57 Odin is any harder to hit than the lvl 50 Odin ... even had a lvl 37 BLM help fight the lvl 57 Odin and he was hitting nearly 89% of the time

This is delusional. i90 has as much accuracy as i70. It's all over the place -- and for same slots with the same priority, i90 has more raw acc than i70 gear.

yes it does ... in more horrendous and much more required spots, sure each piece has more on it but that just narrows options even more since you HAVE to pick up the acc versions of ilv90 in order to scrape your way over cap where ilv70 rockets you over the cap like it was nothing.

I'm sitting here on my DRG with mostly i90 gear at 502 accuracy, and I'm trying to reduce it. I can't even upgrade my belt from Allagan to BiS Myth because it will increase my accuracy.

if it is really BiS then why not upgrade to it? if you upgrade that then you could easily trade out a different piece