Accuracy, a poorly designed stat

[EasymodeX]

Hmm... for bard the maximum you can get is 481 with the allagan helmet.
Both allagan nad myth boots don't provide ACC, neither does the belt or neck and you can only use one allagan ring, thus full i90 has a max of 480~ for bards. Can't get any higher. Might be some class issue but still it's an issue. The point of some gear being totally discarded for some classes still stands.

So, I just spent about 2 minutes on xivdb and it looks like:

weapon, earring, helm, legs, chest, ring, bracelet, hands

For Bards can all get acc, for a total of 509 accuracy, giving you about 27-37 points to shuffle for higher DPS stats.

Edit: Actually I summed the wrong helm, so you can get up to 515 accuracy. All that assuming I didn't fat finger or eyeball something wrong, since as I said I spent about 2 minutes looking through the items.

[Alzithe]

So, I just spent about 2 minutes on xivdb and it looks like:

weapon, earring, helm, legs, chest, ring, bracelet, hands

For Bards can all get acc, for a total of 509 accuracy, giving you about 27-37 points to shuffle for higher DPS stats.

Edit: Actually I summed the wrong helm, so you can get up to 515 accuracy. All that assuming I didn't fat finger or eyeball something wrong, since as I said I spent about 2 minutes looking through the items.

You're right on the items but not on the numbers. I think you might be putting higher starting ACC because we can't get that high, only with darklight. There no way I can reach 515 if I'm missing just a few pieces.

[Pellegri]

Uh, no?

ACC is based on mob level. Turn 1-4 has been estimated at 472 acc to cap. Turn 5 is higher acc to cap. Odin is even higher Acc. Ever wonder why it's hard to get gold on the guy? Miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss. That's literally the first thing I noticed when I attacked Odin -- and I had almost 480 acc at the time. Now I have 502 acc because my current itemization sucks, and I'm pretty sure I still got a miss or two the last time I attacked him.

Wonder what level the X-primals will be. 57? 59? How about Turn 6-10? Level 60?

While I may not be sure on turn 5(I've never missed with 472 acc and 50+ attempts), I can tell you you're wrong on Odin. You miss so many attacks on him because of lag, a missed attack does not give you back tp or mana like it does on him. It just does not register that you even used the attack at all due to the mob ontop of him, an attack that does not register will not use tp/mp which is why you are constantly capped even when you're spamming attacks.

[Ixsiehn]

Accuracy is fine as it is, the main issue isnt that 1 stat.

The main and biggest issue at the moment is the complete lack of gearing options and/or gearing customization.

There is no reforging to adjust your stats, no gemming(materia) to socket on ilvl90 gears, and only 2 options for ilvl 90 which means your BiS is very linear and set. What stats you have is nearly completely dictated by SE and not by the players.

[Nuffy]

i90 gear has plenty of accuracy options.

Min/maxing will always lead to a single-ish BiS list.

... the end.

Dropping truth bombs all up in this thread. Stop it you're hurting feelings.

[abzoluut]

WoW is finally doing away with 4 stats that have been there for years: Hit, Expertise, Parry, Dodge.
I wonder how long Squenix will remain with this outdated model. They should improve the system instead of copying it.

Exactly. It's rather unfortunate that some of these devs helped working on WoW, but don't understand where to change for the better.. Give DPS/healing/tanking stats rather than a zillion stats no one wants.. WoW finally seems to get the point

[Sezuel]

Why are you so fixated on DL? You could use i90 slots with accuracy for Odin. Or crafted gear.

Why? because DL has the highest ACC by far when it is technically 2 tiers of gear below BiS and yet seems to have the highest ACC out of ANYHING

However, the components of your argument are/were off-base. You first assumed that the only purpose for acc is Coil, creating an arbitrary link along the lines of "DL is required for Coil only".

Basically ... it is ONLY for Coils ... if you are reaching the typical HP requirements people have for titan to not be considered a carry then your acc is well over his necessary and other than Titan, coils is the only current content you need to actually worry about it as stated by another, Odin/Behemoth is not a matter of missing it is a matter of not actually using the ability in the first place as there are usually upwards of 10-15 full 8 man groups fighting him which really messes with NPC loading.

It's not random and arbitrary. It's based on the mob level. Higher level mobs and higher-tier content require more acc. That's pretty logical. Not necessarily perfect game design by any stretch, but it is coherent and legitimate.

where's your proof? I've yet to see anything in the game that says the lvl 57 Odin is any harder to hit than the lvl 50 Odin ... even had a lvl 37 BLM help fight the lvl 57 Odin and he was hitting nearly 89% of the time

This is delusional. i90 has as much accuracy as i70. It's all over the place -- and for same slots with the same priority, i90 has more raw acc than i70 gear.

yes it does ... in more horrendous and much more required spots, sure each piece has more on it but that just narrows options even more since you HAVE to pick up the acc versions of ilv90 in order to scrape your way over cap where ilv70 rockets you over the cap like it was nothing.

I'm sitting here on my DRG with mostly i90 gear at 502 accuracy, and I'm trying to reduce it. I can't even upgrade my belt from Allagan to BiS Myth because it will increase my accuracy.

if it is really BiS then why not upgrade to it? if you upgrade that then you could easily trade out a different piece

[Applekrumble]

I personally think there needs to be more diversification in terms of gear stats; as things go - everyone ends up using the same set of gear.

Hopefully the new craftable items would remedy it, or probably the new junk from the hard dungeons - but then again; maybe they'll just make those ilvl100 and everyone'll just comply by wearing the same junk.