There is 4 different players

1) those who killed Twintania, and now are farming the whole coil, doing it in 1 evening.
2) those who are on turn 5. For them, 1 evening to clean before Twintania, one or two to try on twintania
3) those who are working on titan => turn 4. Some are running 3 time per week, some only 1. Trying to recruit to have a full FC team etc.
4) those who just killed titan once... or never, and dont really care for now (many friends are not 50, they began at launch, they dont care about end game)


The second and third players have things to do, fourth wont cry now for not enough end game.

I like PvP, and dont like what PvP gives to MMORPG (you can say what you want... but PvE and PvP communities are really different, and i dont like the second one...). But there is one thing good with PvP, many people can have fun after their PvE farm. Wait for this.