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  1. #11
    Player
    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Lets look at it this way SE tried the no lockout thing in FFXI. Delve has no lockout you can keep going back in over and over as much as you want. People capped out on gear pretty fast in like 2 months, then started selling runs to people who were less skilled / didn't have a ls that did delve for 20m a run. Then complained they had nothing to do and quit the game.

    The whole reason they have a lockout is to slow down progression so people will continue to play.
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  2. #12
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    Rishtar Salomon
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Lets look at it this way SE tried the no lockout thing in FFXI. Delve has no lockout you can keep going back in over and over as much as you want. People capped out on gear pretty fast in like a 2 months, the started selling runs to people who were less skilled / didn't have a ls that did delve for 20m a run. Then complained they had nothing to do and quit the game.

    The whole reason they have a lockout is to slow down progression so people will continue to play.
    But after 2 days a week....there is nothing to do, so people are going to quit the game.
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  3. #13
    Why don't you just roll 1 2 new toons and raid 3 times a week then ? I dont get people
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    Why don't you just roll 1 2 new toons and raid 3 times a week then ? I dont get people
    Increased cost per month, FC/LS hard limits, people having to remember that you play 3-4 different characters, etc.
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  5. #15
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    Victoria Mccry
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    Jenova
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by whilke View Post
    But after 2 days a week....there is nothing to do, so people are going to quit the game.
    Same can be said for WOW.

    Log in tues do random df then clear raid then log off for rest of the week.
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  6. #16
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    Katy Perry
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    craft/level other jobs/gear other jobs/farm/do achievements for funsies

    I'll concede that there's not a lot of content at endgame right now and I as well am looking forward to more being added, but having said that it's not hard to find a reason to login pretty much anytime I feel like it and finding something to do. Even if it's not as "meaningful" or "productive" as Coil.
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  7. #17
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    The issue is not that there is no end game content, we know there is very little because it's a new game. The problem is you can only run that content once a week and then you're just locked out. You then run a couple of quick dungeons to cap, and again, you're done with this game after two days a week.

    The game works against you from having multiple characters, instead of just multiple jobs (increased cost, no leveling bonus of other classes, etc) that just hurts with the lockout even more
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  8. #18
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    Kaiser Dragon
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunociva View Post
    After Reset:

    Day 1 : Raid (clear)
    Day 2 : Finish Myth cap if not already done on Day 1. Think about maybe crafting or banging head against invisible fate wall on my 3rd job.... then inevitably log off until next reset.... I would love to run BC even if I couldn't roll on gear, for the love of jeebus, make BC a 1 roll per week instance.... instead of char lockout...
    so you finished coil turn 5?
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    Ein rotäugiger Kunde betritt dein Geschäft.
    Halb Engel, halb Todesgott.
    Du wirst ihm die Geheimnisse des Kalenders verkaufen.
    Besonders über jene des elften wird er sich freuen.
    Der Kunde wird an einem warmen Tag zurückkehren
    und dich allein mit dem Mann mit Petruskreuz lassen.
    Der falsche vierte Mond wird aus dem Kalender fallen.
    Es verbleiben nur sechs Blätter.

  9. #19
    Player
    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Well other games let you run older tier content for fun, mounts/pets ect you may have lists. Given that the game just started this older tier content doesn't exist.
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  10. #20
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    Arcana Holo
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Because SE is afraid this become a 2 month game for the hard core players.
    2 month to get all myth/coil equipments, and then AFK until next patch...especially 2.1 will not bring anything beyond coil.
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