Gear progression too linear

[Codek]

They need to add gear that players wont toss but gear that is still relevant, but unfortunatly we see that isnt gonna happen.

How is that better? Not only will everyone still wear the same thing (BiS will always be seeked out, this will never change except through vanity slots), but the item slot will no longer be of any use as the item will always be there.

You might as well just build those stats into the character and remove the slot all together...

The progression model is made to allow the carat on a stick syndrome that developers can use to manipulate players into playing content (repeatably as a time sink). By giving gear that's irreplaceable, its removing the powers that the Dev's have over the user base.

[Ralemont]

What endgame did ffxi have at level 50 again?

[Parasoth]

LOL at how the min/maxers think that 1% is OMG awesome.


Of course, that was a result of the vast majority of end-gamers being willing to cheat using a well known third-party 'windowing' tool that made scriptable macros do it all with one button press.

The game as designed by SE didn't make multi-gear-swap-per-skill-or-WS at all feasible, but the cheats didn't care.

This is an extremely dumb comment.
I played PS2 for the first 2 years I played 11 (2005-2006) and I had macros for gearswap, as well as for SATA. The only thing Windower did was allow you to make 1 giant long macro instead of needing 2 to swap to STR for WS.

I'm not going to even get into your jealous-diva-drama comment of not being intelligent enough to min-max.

[Astarica]

The only reason having the BiS slot that lasts for 3 years or longer was because it used to take ridiculous effort to get it. If Relic+1 is the BiS weapon in the game for the next 3 years, people would (rightfully) complain that it's pretty messed up a trivial encounter still produces the best weapon in the game even when you have 5 digit HPs. People really need to be careful of what they think of. It's quite easy to make gear with a lasting impact, but the tradeoff is that you most likely wouldn't have it. If everyone have the 'gear with lasting impact', then the 'lasting impact' part might as well be something built into your character. In EQ1/EQ2 the epics pretty much have unreplaceable special effects, and at least in EQ2 they eventually just made the special effect part of your class because otherwise you'd never be able to replace your epic weapon since the special effect on it outweighs any stat gain.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

To compare with SEs own game, FFXI really have the best gear system in mmo imo. See how desirable a lv50ish scorpions harness +1 and haubergeon+1 is at end game. People did work hard for it and felt well paid off. And yet drops from sky and such still very relevant due to special bonus such as run speed boost on crimson legging and auto refresh on rdm af2 hat and such and those gear last good couple years vs couple month :x . This provide a great varity of min/max in gear combo and really give player option how they like to play their game instead of being forced into a one way track. Hack even wow always have some fancy lower tier trinket out perform higher tier ones.

Gear swapping was a horrible idea, and should never be used again........

[ForteXX]

game out only for a few years

/discuss

Actually it is months. The name of the game changed, the engine changed, the old server closed. That's a new game, not an update/upgrade.

[KiriA500]

No Xi did it the correct way. What we have in XIV is everyone can get anything, than once the patch hits that gear is tossed. 1st we have darklight, oh wait time to toss it its useless CT is out w new gear, oops time to toss cause I now have coil and myth gear, oh better yet wait now we have a new dungeon that has even better gear but OH GOD now the coil gear and myth gear is trash. They need to add gear that players wont toss but gear that is still relevant, but unfortunatly we see that isnt gonna happen.

No, XI did it wrong. When a 75 THF uses level 7 shoes, that's not progression, that's stagnation.

The way MMOs should be built is that every patch has something new to work toward. When you make gear have such an impact that is all you get and stop, that defeats the purpose of updates, because you already have the best equipment.

What endgame did ffxi have at level 50 again?

/sh DRG LFG

For hours upon hours! Best endgame of all time!

[Sixmp]

This is why we need a system where we can swap the looks of any piece of gear with any other of the same type. That way once you out level your fav looking gear you can keep it and make use of it's look.

[rtpsoulx]

. 1st we have darklight, oh wait time to toss it its useless CT is out w new gear, oops time to toss cause I now have coil and myth gear, oh better yet wait now we have a new dungeon that has even better gear but OH GOD now the coil gear and myth gear is trash.

why do people think CT is supposed to have better gear than coil on launch?... they said many times it was the step in between primals and coil <.<

[Black_Rose]

Actually it is months. The name of the game changed, the engine changed, the old server closed. That's a new game, not an update/upgrade.

the old servers didn't close.they went down only for the time during december and somehwere around cbt2 or 3, dunno which brought them back again.
the engine changed, but a new engine doesn't make a new game.it was simply a technical upgrade, to help alleviate some stress that the older engine caused due to it taxing high end computers and the PS3 being unable to handle it correctly.