Gear progression too linear

[Hitaru]

I never meant to dis CT or anything. But with this design logic that place will be a dead zone before it even proven to be worth the effort the dev has thrown in there. And I think Yoshi mentioned in TGS that content will be altering between BC and CT. If the order is reversed and we start with CT, it would make much better sense. Worst case 2 adjacent content will be side grade. Now it is taking a step back every other patch.

FFXI had its issue with too many gear, but at least it is one of the kind system that give old gear value thus extended the game's life. I am not sure how many of you guys remember the elemental obis in sea. On the look of it, it is garbge and very situational. But it is one of the must have item from CoP and people constantly go back to sea just farm organ for those. That what some special gear will do to the game, it extends content life, more bang for the bucks for the dev.

[Seig345]

[...] If the order is reversed and we start with CT, it would make much better sense. Worst case 2 adjacent content will be side grade. Now it is taking a step back every other patch. [...]

The trick is though is that we were supposed to start with CT, and once it's implemented, that's how anyone who hasn't reached that point in the game yet will progress, with CT first in order to gear up for BC instead of having to rely soley on myth grinding. BC isn't going to be the next step, because CT IS first, then BC, so it will be CT again. It will appear as though CT gets two patches in a row, but only because the first one is due to the dungeon having been postponed to be worked on.

It was meant to be there at launch; its inclusion in patch 2.1 isn't an addition, it's SE completing a link of the end game chain that's been missing since day 1. Not sure if that last available turn in the coil is still bugged at the end, but I would wager that that bug being fixed is the only new thing we'd see in BC before CT gets its next level in 2.2, or 2.3, or whatever.

[diulalasing]

game out only few months

/discuss

[Black_Rose]

game out only few months

/discuss

game out only for a few years

/discuss

seriously, this game is trying to limit you in every possible way, so there is no room for character development AT ALL.
at least in 1.0 we were able to use different pieces of equip to build our characters.
but with how the materia system now works and equip of the same iLvL practically having the same main stats it's pretty clear that this game is linear and that will NEVER change if the system doesn't change.
my Wyrm Body has the same amount of STR & VIT as my friends Valor Body.

[jObEfiSH]

my Wyrm Body has the same amount of STR & VIT as my friends Valor Body.

Which also has same exact STR & VIT as my MNK Melee body. Which has same exact STR & VIT as every melee Allagan body.
Variety...

[ForteXX]

game out only for a few years

/discuss

Actually it is months. The name of the game changed, the engine changed, the old server closed. That's a new game, not an update/upgrade.

[Black_Rose]

Actually it is months. The name of the game changed, the engine changed, the old server closed. That's a new game, not an update/upgrade.

the old servers didn't close.they went down only for the time during december and somehwere around cbt2 or 3, dunno which brought them back again.
the engine changed, but a new engine doesn't make a new game.it was simply a technical upgrade, to help alleviate some stress that the older engine caused due to it taxing high end computers and the PS3 being unable to handle it correctly.

[Kyana]

game out only few months

/discuss

Doesn't change the fact that there are only 2 sets of gear with same primary stats and small differences in secondary stats per job.
There is no variation in endgame gear. It's either Relic/Allagan/AF2 or a mix of it.
In the end everybody looks the same and has similar stats with the exception of some crafted+melded accessories.

I don't miss gear swapping, but I do miss the things which made some items special. For example, FFXI AF provides special boosts to abilities, offers some unique stats or even gives access to unique weaponskills.
The AF in FFXIV just has some basic stats and is replaced very soon with gear from WP/AK or DL.
AF doesn't feel special at all and it doesn't provide any job specific bonus.

We also have a good crafting system, but the things we can make are either kinda useless or more expensive than the gear we can buy with tomestones and there is no alternative to AF2 or Allagan stat wise.

[Ralemont]

What endgame did ffxi have at level 50 again?

[Astarica]

The only reason having the BiS slot that lasts for 3 years or longer was because it used to take ridiculous effort to get it. If Relic+1 is the BiS weapon in the game for the next 3 years, people would (rightfully) complain that it's pretty messed up a trivial encounter still produces the best weapon in the game even when you have 5 digit HPs. People really need to be careful of what they think of. It's quite easy to make gear with a lasting impact, but the tradeoff is that you most likely wouldn't have it. If everyone have the 'gear with lasting impact', then the 'lasting impact' part might as well be something built into your character. In EQ1/EQ2 the epics pretty much have unreplaceable special effects, and at least in EQ2 they eventually just made the special effect part of your class because otherwise you'd never be able to replace your epic weapon since the special effect on it outweighs any stat gain.