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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    i dunno could just be the players ive encountered on my server but ive never been behind in dps and have yet to be out parsed by a monk as drg only times ive lost on dps is aoe stuff to blm and have yet to be out done by a bard unless im not even trying lol
    You're talking about random pugs doing spammy dungeons?

    Try Coil, or even a primal with a group of people all equally geared.

    MNK and BLM are the clear leaders. Hell - get your closest MNK or BLM buddy to run over to a striking dummy with you, strip naked aside from your weapon and see who does more damage over 5 mins.

    BRD is hit or miss, some of their damage (like BLM) does rely on chance. However fight depending - BRD can easily top a DRG if they don't have to worry about songs. The biggest issue here is that BRD has both the damage & the utility.. Where DRG can do nothing but DPS. The margin should be much clearer in DRG's favour, simply because of BRD's ability to support the party - and deal their damage at a safe range. Really all melee DPS should do more damage then ranged for this reason alone, but adding the amount of utility both BRD and BLM have, it really just isn't balanced at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    BRD is hit or miss, some of their damage (like BLM) does rely on chance. However fight depending - BRD can easily top a DRG if they don't have to worry about songs.
    This is not true at all, a BRD cannot top a good dragon, NEVER! With the same equipment one dragon should be doing at least 60 - 70 more dps than a Bard (this is the Bard didn't play a song for much time)
    Are some fights that we can have more dps due to the mobility but this do not apply for Coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon_Stormrage View Post
    This is not true at all, a BRD cannot top a good dragon, NEVER! With the same equipment one dragon should be doing at least 60 - 70 more dps than a Bard (this is the Bard didn't play a song for much time)
    Are some fights that we can have more dps due to the mobility but this do not apply for Coil.
    70 DPS difference? You are serious right now? You play FFXIV right?

    A DRG of equal gear to a BRD cannot push 70 DPS higher. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    70 DPS difference? You are serious right now? You play FFXIV right?

    A DRG of equal gear to a BRD cannot push 70 DPS higher. lol.
    Emmm yes they can the dragon on my coil group is doing about 260 dps and I am doing 200 I don't know if this are good numbers for me but I compared it with other bards on my FC and all we are doing around the same 200 - 210 so the answer is yes. The dragoon can and MUST be doing more damage than a BRD if not maybe is wrong at one point of his rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon_Stormrage View Post
    Emmm yes they can the dragon on my coil group is doing about 260 dps and I am doing 200 I don't know if this are good numbers for me but I compared it with other bards on my FC and all we are doing around the same 200 - 210 so the answer is yes. The dragoon can and MUST be doing more damage than a BRD if not maybe is wrong at one point of his rotation.
    As a BRD, 200 DPS is fairly low, even for pre-i90 gear to be truthfully honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    As a BRD, 200 DPS is fairly low, even for pre-i90 gear to be truthfully honest.
    Emm no, is a good dmg in Coil. Other example: I parse around 230 in king Tom berry when this dragon parse around 280 or more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    You're talking about random pugs doing spammy dungeons?

    Try Coil, or even a primal with a group of people all equally geared.

    MNK and BLM are the clear leaders. Hell - get your closest MNK or BLM buddy to run over to a striking dummy with you, strip naked aside from your weapon and see who does more damage over 5 mins.

    BRD is hit or miss, some of their damage (like BLM) does rely on chance. However fight depending - BRD can easily top a DRG if they don't have to worry about songs. The biggest issue here is that BRD has both the damage & the utility.. Where DRG can do nothing but DPS. The margin should be much clearer in DRG's favour, simply because of BRD's ability to support the party - and deal their damage at a safe range. Really all melee DPS should do more damage then ranged for this reason alone, but adding the amount of utility both BRD and BLM have, it really just isn't balanced at all.
    im talking coil with equally geared players only time i lost in dps was in turn 4 due to the aoe but besides that im always top even on titan with ppl equally geared
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